Hired/Ordered?

[Sarchi]

The guy that confessed was a noob anyway, so...

[rye130]

The guy that confessed was a noob anyway, so...

Or it was nao in disguise... -insert suspenseful/dramatic music here-

[DatOneGuy]

1. we're going to have to wait till KV comes online for that. i'll not speak for him.

2.about the danny thing? may i direct you to this post(thisjnnl's post of him dieing viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11317&start=70 talking about page 8, 5th post down?
What I was referring to was previous to this post, while everything was ongoing.


3. a. Kaz never ruined anything cause we were upfront of it all. By me posting the chatlogs, if those people were active and was wonderin who put the stone there. they would see we do NOT tolerate that kinda thing. A Peaceful village doesn't like greifing/ganking/raiding. b. We were too forgiving. he had a merriad of 2nd tries but in the end. your right, we should had kicked him after the he screwed up after a second chance. lesson learned c. we want to just forget about the whole bad time. that makes us guilty? come on man, whatever. and actual facts. how many screenies do u need to see? how many peeps need to come in here and tell you Kaz was bad. Tell you what dog, get all the peeps in here telling the H&H community how i strongarm them and how i manupulate them please. since you know so many.

about you telling kazur to tell me to mssg u, i mssgd u on my own(Kaz never told me anything). and yes i will post screenshots cause that is the TRUTH. which shines very brightly in a room full of BULLSHIT. I now wished i would had screenshotted our entire conversation. For now on when anything Slightly political happens, i will do just that. cause a man's word means little in a mmo, but screenshots are worth a 1000 words. if you don't like that. i'm sorry. But ever sence the kaz incident, i've been nothing but mouth bashed by you. and for what m8. I STILL have not said a cross word about you. Am I wrong. then post the bloody screenshots or forums posts to prove me wrong so i can appologize to you.
Funny that you only screenshot choice parts that make you look good. If I wanted logs of someone I'd talk to them on IRC or the forums, taking screenshots of that thing? Ridiculous. The only time someone does that is when they want to be able to put someone on the spot later.

Bottom Line DatOneGuy: If you think Kaz was so horribly wronged and was the victim, then get him into your village.
No reason to invite anyone into the village I am not 'my village' as you so put it, a village doesn't necessarily belong to any single person, we don't have a monarchy over here.

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My overall point in case you missed is, is that I asked all thees questions when shit was going down, I got radically different answers than what you are giving now, your answers on the forums are just to save face, they don't match what you said to me ingame, any of you.

On the forums: Rothgard let Kazur leave peacefully even though he was a bad guy and responsible for every single unpeaceful thing Rothgard has ever done!

In reality: You're a dick, you blew shit out of proportion, apparently he wasn't liked enough or you were liked enough to get him kicked out.

You say he's done all these horrible things and wasn't liked by anyone, and you also say that screenshots matter so much, and you clearly like taking them, where are any screenshots of him doing these things? Why have I never heard of him terrorizing noobs outside of you saying it? everyone else just says "Broghk says he was terrorizing noobs" , what a word to use btw, terrorizing, hilarious. Same thing you told me, so I guess you'd be the 'source' of this information.

Here's what I think happened, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

1)You didn't and don't like Kazur, for whatever reason, you guys are always bickering at each other like little bitches.
2)After you keep assaulting him ingame (for whatever reason), he sets this little joke on you with Lake in order to:
a)get you to back the fuck up and stop assaulting him
b)make fun of you for being weak
3)You blow shit out of proportion and claim that you were going to be assassinated, and that you were attacked first, and all this other bullshit, that you almost killed Lake and that's why you stopped before he died to let him talk, it's all bullshit, I heard it all from talking to other Rothgardians including Taher (that's the bullshit story you fed him and apparently he believed it) and King V. Mob forms while both chieftain and LS are away and you get them to try and lynch Kazur because he turned traitor and tried to get you 'assassinated', shit subsides and you guys wait for King V (who was the one that made this 'waiting' happened as opposed to your crazy obsession with killing him then and there).
4)Getting him expelled by King V or Taher wasn't enough, instead you get to the point where you him hunted, whether it was you or King V fueled by the previous lies you sold him.
5)He dies, King V tells me that he had part in formulating it, and that he 'would make sure kazur died for what he did', he was also fed with the bullshit that you Lake was there to 'assassinate' you, because that's what he told me. Where would he get that idea?


Taher, I believe the problem is more you believing me than the other way around, most of this stemmed from Broghk stating that he was being assassinated, before he got a chance to talk to you I assured Dany and had Dany tell you, and then spoke with you and told you, that Lake was NOT there to do any harm to Broghk at all, if it was an 'assassination' he would have been dead. Whether it was Kazur who involved Sodom or the king of Rothgard himself, we were involved, so either PM me and tell me the whole truth, not some bullshit PR story, or post it here. Since I was continually lied to ingame by people I thought I could trust on the matter, I continued it to where it was on the forums, where more lies were being pumped to make Kazur look bad. When I spoke to Broghk directly following the event he was deadset on believing that he was setup to be assassinated, I assured him that Lake was not an assassin but a Sodomite who was there as a joke so that he would back off of Kazur. He told me at that point that Kazur was some sort of menace and terrorized every single new person in the town and went around KOing them, I've never got anymore information to believe this is as true and everyone else says they 'heard it form Broghk' but never saw it actually happen.

[temudgin]

The guy that confessed was a noob anyway, so...

Or it was nao in disguise... -insert suspenseful/dramatic music here-

You've gone mad

[burgingham]

[Airleas]

@ DoG,

While some of us were not involved directly with what happened, there was very little to no chat about the whole subject being done since I have joined Rothgard, roughly... week and a half, two weeks ago? And with what your posting, while you may be directing it to Broghk/KV/Tach, it looks as if you are trying to demonize Roth in a whole.

I think in the long run, things may have been blown out of porportion from all sides and all parties involved need to take a step back and look at things a little more rationally. It's been a touchy subject since the whole thing happened.

[DatOneGuy]

@ DoG,

While some of us were not involved directly with what happened, there was very little to no chat about the whole subject being done since I have joined Rothgard, roughly... week and a half, two weeks ago? And with what your posting, while you may be directing it to Broghk/KV/Tach, it looks as if you are trying to demonize Roth in a whole.

I think in the long run, things may have been blown out of porportion from all sides and all parties involved need to take a step back and look at things a little more rationally. It's been a touchy subject since the whole thing happened.

Yes, I'm looking for proof because otherwise this is what I would assume happened based on what I know on the subject.

I would like to think Rothgard is a better place than that, but since no one says what happened either one person did something bad and they don't want to talk about it outside of the 'villagers', or they all had a hand in it, there was no proof, and it's all bullshit in order to get rid of him.

[Thijssnl]

Omg, again this, Kaz - you really are a shit stirrer, aren't you? Drop it, dude, you think too highly of yourself - I'd not waste my game time on trying to kill you let alone getting someone else to do it since that would probably take even more time to explain.

Dog - if you don't believe me, then fine. You're entitled to your own opinions, mislead as you may be - although you should know me by now (remember me offering the resources I knew about when we first met, out of a gesture of good will? Well, THAT's me.)

I've already said everything in a thread before, so did Dany and a bunch of other peaceful villagers. As far as I know (and I was not involved directly in anything, I've been seldom online during that time due to my college obligations) Kazur got killed AFTER he left the village (instead of sooner, which we could've done easily but we're a PEACEFUL village) because in THAT time he was bothering Broghk in PM's and being generally rude to KV in the chat's they've been having. But since his death was by summons, any other point is moot. He is a THIEF and got killed for it, anything else is speculation. Oh, and I went by that village you made, a few days after you died, Kazur, and I found the sword you stole from Shekera while you were still allowed on her plot - THIEF.

All in all, stop fucking bothering us, if you can't play without shit stirring,go take a dump and stick your head in it, then flush.

Have a nice day.

Sword I stole from Shekera? Wtf? I traded it with Chade. Also, I never stole anything.
And whats with your temper man, and the word 'shit-stirrer'.
The bottom line here is that I was kicked because you guys didnt find it acceptable what happened, about assisination, didnt keep promises about leaving me alone and actually hired someone to kill me later. Oh, the irony
I dont think highly of myself. Not at all. I just think lowly of liars, yes, like you.
Get the fuck off my back, its you that keeps bothering me, not the other way around.
And really, you, an adult, needs to keep foul-mouthing? Sad.

[Airleas]

@ DoG,

While some of us were not involved directly with what happened, there was very little to no chat about the whole subject being done since I have joined Rothgard, roughly... week and a half, two weeks ago? And with what your posting, while you may be directing it to Broghk/KV/Tach, it looks as if you are trying to demonize Roth in a whole.

I think in the long run, things may have been blown out of porportion from all sides and all parties involved need to take a step back and look at things a little more rationally. It's been a touchy subject since the whole thing happened.

Yes, I'm looking for proof because otherwise this is what I would assume happened based on what I know on the subject.

I would like to think Rothgard is a better place than that, but since no one says what happened either one person did something bad and they don't want to talk about it outside of the 'villagers', or they all had a hand in it, there was no proof, and it's all bullshit in order to get rid of him.

I'm not saying your intentions are bad or anything. But like I said, since I've joined the subject has been close to not talked about at all. So either it's being kept out of the 'villagers' view, or it's them trying to move passed it. I'm hoping for the later as I have come to enjoy the company of these folk. If everyone "had a hand in it" it was before I and a few others got here then.

I believe Rothgard is a better place then this. I want to think and hope it's just tempers flaring and misunderstandings/exagerations that are happening and not flat out lies. I wish this get's resolved soon and hopefully for the better of everyone involved. But for now I'll step out as I wasn't here at the beginning of the whole episode.

[Thijssnl]

The only thing I am really able to comment on is point A.

While yes, he was using an alt account (on the runestone), if he was leaving stones on "Kazur" which seemed to be the case, if he left a tres scent, they could've traced it back to Rothgard. Not saying this is what happened, but it could be a possibility. This may have resulted in someone coming to the village wall and speaking with someone inside about the wonderful runestone left on their door step.

As for the runestone messages in general, he happened to leave a couple in Rothgard itself, saying if anyone messed with him/his stuff, they would mysteriously disappear. Not exactly the most friendly message to leave in general.


This is my general understanding of this particular part anyway.

Lies, where'd you get that?