Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby Dataslycer » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:48 am

I guess you wouldn't mind me calling you human instead of your name? ;)
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby al » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:54 am

Winterbrass wrote:Call me crazy, but I like calling a spade a spade and not pussyfooting around because someone might be offended. Causing drama is a plus.

I'm not offended, though I don't like the idea that someone else choose whose side I'm on. Be it a stereotyped poster on forums, or a Russian-speaking moron in-game.
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby Leksar » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:05 am

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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby randy » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:07 am

Now, All village is suffered from the murderer.
Nobody, anybody do not assert murderer...
Who is the destroyer?
A.D? or another?
That is not issue...
The Fact is that.
The poor players is hunting in this time...
I wanna stop this situation.... -o(T- To-
If you are strong, please stop the war......


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Just, Most of korean know(maybe it is caused by korean culture) "hate" means "do not like" or "dislike".
Not means hatred.....
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby randy » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:14 am

For example, Umm....

"Hate" translate in korean have two meaning.
si-ru-ha-da and jeung-o-ha-da
Many korean knows that "hate" means "si-ru-ha-da".
but the real is "jeung-o-ha-da".

Explain the level of dislike....
si-ru-ha-da <<<<<<<< the wall of 4D can not pass <<<<<<< jeung-o-ha-da ????

this is the real language barrier.....
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby Kaios » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:44 am

randy wrote:???


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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby ciroth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:59 am

Do we have no English speaking Korean players who can act as the diplomat for these international Koreans? (TBH at my university the American Koreans and Int. Koreans can never get along... i digress) IMO using a computer translator to interpret people is the worst thing you can do. IF the UN used bablefish or google translator to translate speech... we be at world war 5 or so by now... if we aren't all dead =)
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby Urkerval » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:40 am

I just wonder why there is no proof that korean villages recently were attacked by A.D., russian-speakers. It might be someone else.

My group killed just 2 koreans who murdered our friend which just passed-by near them (he hardly tresspass, he would never thief, murder or vandal). We had a reason to kill those 2 koreans. We did not kill them just because they were koreans. :roll:
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby burgingham » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:55 am

ciroth wrote:Do we have no English speaking Korean players who can act as the diplomat for these international Koreans?



It would be pretty nice to know a little more about the Korean community in general. There are quite alot of them so we have already been wondering what their major towns are and if there are any leaders we can start diplomatic interactions with. Like with AD I know I can always turn to Koya or el_diablo if I have a problem.
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Re: Koreans and Korean villages are being attacked

Postby Dataslycer » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:00 am

Translator for the United Nation ideally should be very fluent with the two languages that they are translating as a single erred translation can change the context of the sentences and the meaning itself especially if you are dealing with countries that does not use the standard alphabet by Cyrillic or symbols and the dependency of diplomatic sessions determines the outcomes of short and possibly long term actions.

Now within terms of contents within Haven and Hearth, communication between English, Russians, and Koreans are going to be shaky at best as we have only few (if any) that are fluent in two of the given language. A translator would be valuable as a diplomat within the game if that was the intent. However I do get the impression that diplomacy seems to not be too much of a priority especially with oloth's sentence of killing all Koreans till (insert unclear context).

Even the trust factor itself is dependent on if the other person knows your language as well. I know it sounds retarded but if you think for a moment, it is hard to figure whether the foreign person wants to put a sword in your inventory or in your body. People that are flaky with the usage of the language is a bit less prone to this but that depends on if the person understands the context of the sentence. In a more broader terms, it helps understand the intent of a group in general (unless they are lying but that's another subject though).

That being side, the whole problem seems to not being language as a problem, but more of generalizations and assumptions. Everyone does, no one (I know of) is exempted of this, even if they do not intend to. Much of it is based on the background of the individual as well as the upbringing, teaching, and mindset to look past it. Even then mistakes will be made. Although I may be stating the obvious, these prejudice are everywhere in many locations, in the world, in your city, in this forum. What is done about it depends on each individual.
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