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WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Legolas6531 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:14 am

HEY we have tin and we are in desperate need of copper! We can trade 1 tin bar for 2 copper bars, since it requires 1 tin and 2 copper for 3 bars of bronze. PM me and we will happily trade!
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Oblivior » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:25 am

Legolas6531 wrote:HEY we have tin and we are in desperate need of copper! We can trade 1 tin bar for 2 copper bars, since it requires 1 tin and 2 copper for 3 bars of bronze. PM me and we will happily trade!

You trade doesn't seem right

You want to trade 1 bar for 2 bars?
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby chris1122 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:49 am

if you can get me 10 tin i can get you copper
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Legolas6531 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:53 am

Oblivior wrote:
Legolas6531 wrote:HEY we have tin and we are in desperate need of copper! We can trade 1 tin bar for 2 copper bars, since it requires 1 tin and 2 copper for 3 bars of bronze. PM me and we will happily trade!

You trade doesn't seem right

You want to trade 1 bar for 2 bars?

look at it this way:
If we give 1 tin for 1 copper, they get 3 bars of bronze while we still don't even have one.
1 tin for 2 copper and we get 3 bronze, they get 3 bronze
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Oblivior » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:55 am

Legolas6531 wrote:
Oblivior wrote:
Legolas6531 wrote:HEY we have tin and we are in desperate need of copper! We can trade 1 tin bar for 2 copper bars, since it requires 1 tin and 2 copper for 3 bars of bronze. PM me and we will happily trade!

You trade doesn't seem right

You want to trade 1 bar for 2 bars?

look at it this way:
If we give 1 tin for 1 copper, they get 3 bars of bronze while we still don't even have one.
1 tin for 2 copper and we get 3 bronze, they get 3 bronze

Ok your right about that.
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby TeckXKnight » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:39 am

So let me get this straight; supply is equal in terms of tin and copper for the most part, as there are likely roughly equal numbers of copper and tin mines. Now, to make bronze you need 2 copper and 1 tin, so you need more copper than tin. So now copper is more scarce and thus more valuable since you need twice as much of it to get the end product, thus there is twice the demand. Yet you're charging twice as much copper for tin, assuming to devaluate the copper to half the value of tin, which is less scarce and meets less demand.

With that rant out of the way, I'll make the offer of a 1 for 1 ore exchange but you're likely to not accept it. I wish you luck in getting the trade you want.
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby bitza » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:44 am

what's all this business about copper supply, has anyone actually ever depleted a copper mine?

still, the ore exchange seems like a better idea, since then the difference in qualities is a non issue, for example what if you are making q50 tin and they are only making q20 copper
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Sever » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:45 am

If you each have 4 bars, and you give them 2 tin and they give you 4 copper, they now have 2 tin bars, while you have 6 bronze.

They have to mine what they just gave you to even catch up. Get real.
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby TeckXKnight » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:55 am

Sever wrote:If you each have 4 bars, and you give them 2 tin and they give you 4 copper, they now have 2 tin bars, while you have 6 bronze.

They have to mine what they just gave you to even catch up. Get real.


It's an equal quantity exchange and thus equal value. No major trading city has valued Tin, Copper, Bronze, or Iron at different prices as they are all common metals. Otherwise it makes no sense for me not to just pick up a tin mine, double my quantity of bars trading with some sucker with a copper mine, then sell them to a major city for twice the value of my tin.
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!

Postby Legolas6531 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:59 am

TeckXKnight wrote:
Sever wrote:If you each have 4 bars, and you give them 2 tin and they give you 4 copper, they now have 2 tin bars, while you have 6 bronze.

They have to mine what they just gave you to even catch up. Get real.


It's an equal quantity exchange and thus equal value. No major trading city has valued Tin, Copper, Bronze, or Iron at different prices as they are all common metals. Otherwise it makes no sense for me not to just pick up a tin mine, double my quantity of bars trading with some sucker with a copper mine, then sell them to a major city for twice the value of my tin.

this makes no sense, copper and tin are useless without one another, besides tin for tankards.
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