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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby whiskeypete » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:03 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:thats what you think, whiskeypete.
once upon a time in america, i remember a reta... very religious boy objecting to our homeroom teacher for making all students take biology class and learn "evolution". (my first culture shock ;)) to him, science is surely another religion.


Ignorance notwithstanding... my point was valid. Science is pursuit of truth, religion is superstition. The Dalai Lama agrees with me...

“If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims.”
― Dalai Lama XIV

Science is a process, religion is a belief system. Someone can be religious about cars, but it is incorrect to say that cars are a religion.
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby borka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:06 pm

ROFLOL - yeah i believe in Popcorn and i'm happy for every image of the pocorn prophet: thou shalt see me chewing that should be the only law - ty Nao!!!
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby dageir » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:06 pm

My point is that someone forming a scientific theory is aware of the possibility that it might be wrong prior to testing.
Even if tested and "proven" there is still the possibility that it might be wrong. In a sense a scientific theory can never be
proven "true" for ever. There will always be uncertainty.

Regarding the old professors I cant point to a specific theory other than Lord Kelvins theory of the age of the earth, where he claimed it was some millions years old.
He based this on heat dissipated ffrom earth assuming there was no energy source in the core. He stuck to his theory until his death and the theory fell after his death. (Maybe before, but he had alot of followers.)
The scientific process is straight forward in theory, but not i practice. Its not so "clean" as we might think.
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby Tonkyhonk » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:25 pm

whiskeypete wrote:Ignorance notwithstanding... my point was valid. Science is pursuit of truth, religion is superstition. The Dalai Lama agrees with me...

“If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims.”
― Dalai Lama XIV

Science is a process, religion is a belief system. Someone can be religious about cars, but it is incorrect to say that cars are a religion.

dalai lama agrees with you? lol you dont even know how practical or convenient buddhism is to co-exist with others.
science also takes belief system. religion is also pursuit of "truth".
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby dageir » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:27 pm

That brings us to a central point. Is there real truth. Do you have any examples of anything that is 100% certain?
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby Potjeh » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:31 pm

Mathematics.
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby GreenScape » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:32 pm

dageir wrote:That brings us to a central point. Is there real truth. Do you have any examples of anything that is 100% certain?


If you fell of your window, you'd certainly (100%) miss your breakfast tomorrow.
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby GreenScape » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:34 pm

Potjeh wrote:Mathematics.


Math has it's flaws all right? Infinite small/big numbers? Jeez that's something...
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby dageir » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:35 pm

Can you prove mathematics are 100% certain? Or is it falsifiable? Or is it just a dogma we have made to measure the world?
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Re: Muslim extreamists even affect haven and hearth

Postby Dzedajus » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:37 pm

This thread is getting retarded.
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