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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby GrapefruitV » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:26 pm

It can't be true. He's just trolling.
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby Bob_the_Cat » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:05 pm

I 100% support the curiosity system. Making curio's then doing something good while they study sounds a whole lot better then bot grind buckets to get good. If you want to grind and spend a ton of time in the end you can get better and more curios, and in return get more lp. But for the people who don't want to grind the same thing all day can still get relatively good characters. Also, it favors bots much less.
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:53 pm

Can we snip this discussion from 3 years ago and put it back in its death bed? What happened to not derailing announcement threads with the same old shit? When does it become spam?

Wasn't there some warning back then about continuing this dead argument that the devs explicitly killed?
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby Massa » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:46 am

Back in world 3, I clear cut an entire forest on my own, without using or hauling the wood.
In a huge land mass, the entire forests, gone, for 50,000 lp, because my neighbor had 2 things of gauze, which to me at the time, was quite literally gold.

This is what not having the curio system does.
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby Nummy » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:09 am

Massa wrote:Back in world 3, I clear cut an entire forest on my own, without using or hauling the wood.
In a huge land mass, the entire forests, gone, for 50,000 lp, because my neighbor had 2 things of gauze, which to me at the time, was quite literally gold.

This is what not having the curio system does.


Solution is simple: decrease LP gain for repetitive work or just give LP only for great work like: crafting, killing, hunting, mining,...
I don't even know why there was LP gain for chopping down trees in the first place.

The new system is even worse: you can level up multiple characters, heck you can level up entire army if you bot for curios like crazy and death doesn't mean anything anymore. And you can't even kill the leveling characters. Before you saw a man chopping entire wood and you could go to him and kill him. Now you can't.
At end game curio system isn't so bad, but is is the worst solution for start game where waiting is the worst part of it. I would make some mix between old and new system. I would throw out foraging curios and just keep crafting ones and put LP reward for some actions as mentioned before.
Problem at start game is that people need LP immediately and intellect barrier just limits progression in many ways. Later when you get to cheese intellect leveling is much easier, but before is just some fishes and blueberries. Nothing more. Even leveling up perception is much easier as you can just eat carrots like idiot.

Principle of the story: reward players only for action you wish to be done and "abused" and not for actions that can destroy other people game...
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby Mike_Hawk » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:17 am

i have 3 questions

1.is this a new game in development or an update for haven and hearth

2.will this affect peoples land plots items ETC

3. will it cost something or will haven and hearth remain free
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby Sarge » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:38 am

MagicManICT wrote:Can we snip this discussion from 3 years ago and put it back in its death bed? What happened to not derailing announcement threads with the same old shit? When does it become spam?

Wasn't there some warning back then about continuing this dead argument that the devs explicitly killed?
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Re: The Ghost of Christmas Future

Postby YoukaiMori » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:09 am

Massa wrote:Back in world 3, I clear cut an entire forest on my own, without using or hauling the wood.
In a huge land mass, the entire forests, gone, for 50,000 lp, because my neighbor had 2 things of gauze, which to me at the time, was quite literally gold.

This is what not having the curio system does.

This is.... a joke right?

Is stealing impossible now, or were you just retarded? Why would you "Deforest an area for 50,000LP for two gauze", 50,000LP was probably a single bear after processing (Because apparently they were 30,000LP. Even though I don't remember them being that high.)

And what's to stop you from staring at rocks and bugs for 3 days until you get that 50,000LP now?

Fuck, this isn't even an argument for old or new LP, this is just what, why does the LP system have to do anything with your stupidity?
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