Get better macro protection..?

[DatOneGuy]

MMM more selective quotation, you guys are good at this!

He has it, he runs it, and if you have that section of the log you also have the later section where he mentions it greeting people as it walks about, if not the earlier section where he explicitly states having it.

Here, let me help you get up to speed.

I've yet to quote anything muchless 'selective' outside of that passage. I did a search and a lookaround about 20 in each direction read over it and posted it.

Sorry for not spending the next 5 hours looking through my 3 week long #haven.log file just to please you, if anything you shouldn't be mentioning such things without posting the log yourself, so please do so.

This thread is getting even further offtopic!

[Elirian]

Sorry for not spending the next 5 hours looking through my 3 week long #haven.log file just to please you, if anything you shouldn't be mentioning such things without posting the log yourself.

Yeah sorry, I have the conversation then I'm done with it, I don't use irclogs as references in arguments.

Nor do I feel I need them, since he happily admits he runs the bot, probably because he isn't a loon with an unsubtle agenda, he actually wants to discuss pros and cons.

[Thijssnl]

That's an interesting stance. Which statement do you regard as trolling?

"Games that do nothing about those who abuse their mechanics hemorrhage players"
"Someone was discussing his silkbot that fully automates the silk harvesting process"

Or another one? Perhaps its just the one where your forum idol quoted me out of context and I called him on it? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Granger has done for the game, that was a huge donation the other day. Doesn't mean I'm going to let him misrepresent my comments.

If you'd like to disagree, perhaps you should do that, rather than threaten me with losing your love

Well, dear chap,
The only trolling about these statements is none. The way you behave though is insulting, and you are trolling a bit here and there.
You dont always need to be nice, but lets keep an discussion friendly, shall we?

[Elirian]

That's an interesting stance. Which statement do you regard as trolling?

"Games that do nothing about those who abuse their mechanics hemorrhage players"
"Someone was discussing his silkbot that fully automates the silk harvesting process"

Or another one? Perhaps its just the one where your forum idol quoted me out of context and I called him on it? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Granger has done for the game, that was a huge donation the other day. Doesn't mean I'm going to let him misrepresent my comments.

If you'd like to disagree, perhaps you should do that, rather than threaten me with losing your love

Well, dear chap,
The only trolling about these statements is none. The way you behave though is insulting, and you are trolling a bit here and there.
You dont always need to be nice, but lets keep an discussion friendly, shall we?

Fair enough, I'll tone it down a bit.

[DatOneGuy]

Sorry for not spending the next 5 hours looking through my 3 week long #haven.log file just to please you, if anything you shouldn't be mentioning such things without posting the log yourself.

Yeah sorry, I have the conversation then I'm done with it, I don't use irclogs as references in arguments.

Nor do I feel I need them, since he happily admits he runs the bot, probably because he isn't a loon with an unsubtle agenda, he actually wants to discuss pros and cons.

I'm not even going to go further than that because you wouldn't know about the parts that happened outside of this thread, so you wouldn't know that I've actually already given my reasons and my script to jorb, and answered the questions he asks.

If you don't post a 'log' of what happened you're just as well saying "Hey, I remember one time, something happened! I have no proof, but it was there", most IRC clients default to logging.

If he admits to running the bot and having it, that's very cool then. I suppose someone went through with the idea and actually did it. Since it doesn't run in the background though it doesn't give him too much of an advantage over others.


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I almost forgot to point this out as an overall reply to the 'captcha' or any form of image selection idea, considering the client is opensource, and the images can be unpacked/repacked, this is not a problem in the slightest, one could change the images to simple stupid things like triangles or squares then repack it and presto chango, 'tis like magic.

[Elirian]

" I have no proof, but it was there"

admits to running the bot and having it

In the interests of toning it down, I'll let this stand on its own 'merits'.

[DatOneGuy]

" I have no proof, but it was there"

admits to running the bot and having it

In the interests of toning it down, I'll let this stand on its own 'merits'.

Posting something out of context that's already in context within the same thread is ridiculous.

[Elirian]

" I have no proof, but it was there"

admits to running the bot and having it

In the interests of toning it down, I'll let this stand on its own 'merits'.

Posting something out of context that's already in context within the same thread is ridiculous.

I'm simply highlighting the contradiction. Why do you continue to think I need to prove something that has already been admitted as fact? Do you feel that people may see you as somewhat biased and unreasonable, if not a little slow, if you persist in doubting facts? I realise that sounds insulting, no insult intended, I'm simply curious whether or not that is the image you are attempting to cultivate by doing so, or if you have another reason.

[theTrav]

Wow, is there really 3 pages of people having a got at D1G? Sure he's got an agenda, we get it, you can stop trolling him now.

Most of the complaints seem to be around:
a) macro characters kill me in combat
b) macro characters destroy everything in my town.


Solutions
a) Fix combat system so characters with high Skill Value's aren't chuck norris
b) Fix walls so you NEED a battering ram to knock them down. (possibly houses as well)


Wouldn't that take care of it?

[Elirian]

Wow, is there really 3 pages of people having a got at D1G? Sure he's got an agenda, we get it, you can stop trolling him now.

Most of the complaints seem to be around:
a) macro characters kill me in combat
b) macro characters destroy everything in my town.


Solutions
a) Fix combat system so characters with high Skill Value's aren't chuck norris
b) Fix walls so you NEED a battering ram to knock them down. (possibly houses as well)


Wouldn't that take care of it?

Takes care of the direct conflict, which is definitely the easiest to complain about. People are always going to complain about others playing the system instead of the game though. Plat, gold, steel, silk, whatever you call your games resources, when someone gets more of it by stepping outside the game, people get irritated. Certainly a lot less of them though. When people get all their shit destroyed and there was nothing they could do about it because someone stepped outside the game, that's a bigger issue.