In Which I Go Off the Deep End

[TheInternetMan]

You can build a village on land claimed by a stake.

Why isn't this fixed yet? That's not a hard fix. If the player does not own the stake they cannot build a village on it.

Why has this not been implemented? Why would anyone play this game seriously when a major glitch makes defenses useless? Why is this issue not priority #1? Makes me want to go pay for Wurm instead of playing this for free and possibly donating.

In before 5000 fanboys say its a good thing you can wall jump.

[burgingham]

Because it is intentional?

[TheInternetMan]

Because it is intentional?

A horrible obnoxious bug removing the point of defenses is intentional?

Wow I don't know what they're smoking over there in Sweden.

I bet the Facepunch crew think that's good game design and anyone who disagrees is a "carebear".

From an Ultima Online veteran, being able to glitch through walls is nothing good in any sense.

Is the idea of the H+H community to weed everyone out but those who are immature and NEET enough to sit inside all day and patrol walls and repel anyone who tries to glitch over their walls.

Haven + Hearth = please give up your life or you cannot be viable in any sense. Its worse than the grinds of Darkfall, UO, Vanguard, Mortal, and Wurm combined.

[burgingham]

First off stop insulting me, you have been asking on another thread for people to behave politely. Please do the same. I have never even visited sites like FP or any chan or the like.

Second I didn't mean the wall jumping is intentional, but that you can build a village on a personal claim. That is a good thing, groups of players should always have more impact than a hermit deciding to lay down a huge claim just because he can.

[TheInternetMan]

First off stop insulting me, you have been asking on another thread for people to behave politely. Please do the same. I have never even visited sites like FP or any chan or the like.

Second I didn't mean the wall jumping is intentional, but that you can build a village on a personal claim. That is a good thing, groups of players should always have more impact than a hermit deciding to lay down a huge claim just because he can.

"My zerg should be allowed to abuse game mechanics to my advantage"

Nope.

Also you're from Facepunch, I don't know who you're fooling.

You're completely biased due to your playstyle.

You only want YOUR playstyle to be viable.

The playstyle of huge zerg colonies which do nothing but rape and pillage every settlement that exists to compensate for lacking real lives.

Its common sense that a group of people should not be able to boot a out of their settlement easily just because they feel like it that day. "Lol all your hard work is fucked cuz we got moar zerg kekekekekeekek"

Its no wonder people leave this game in droves, the old guard won't ever push for innovation because they'd rather have power in a VIDEO GAME.

Its kinda like EvE except you're always in lowsec, and you lose a shit ton of stats when you die, and it takes longer to grind skills.

[burgingham]

Seriously, what is your problem? Stop accusing me of things you know nothing about.

This is an MMO, community based play styles should be superior to hermitting. This has nothing to do with a zerg play style.

This game is getting more and more players each day. You are not the first one claiming people are leaving this game and you won't be the last. Still does not make it true.

I am not sure where your problem with those meme driven internet kids is, but let me assure you I am not one of them.

[TheInternetMan]

Seriously, what is your problem? Stop accusing me of things you know nothing about.

This is an MMO, community based play styles should be superior to hermitting. This has nothing to do with a zerg play style.

This game is getting more and more players each day. You are not the first one claiming people are leaving this game and you won't be the last. Still does not make it true.

I am not sure where your problem with those meme driven internet kids is, but let me assure you I am not one of them.

Nice ad hominem instead of focusing on the game.

Classic fallacious argument too "This is an MMO it just works that way". Classic Old Guard technique of beating down any innovation in the MMO to preserve an overpowered status that only suits your playstyle. "I don't like the way you play that's not how you play I'm playing the right way". Abusing ZERGING yes, ZERGING to boot any player who makes a settlement out of their weeks -> months of hard work just because you have more people and a settlement claim isn't good game design. You know it, you just prefer to make a gigantic empire to once again, compensate. Seriously you don't care about game mechanics and just want POWER in a VIDEO GAME. Seriously go outside and get a friend or two please. There's a difference between ad hominem and a direct correlation between power mongers in MMOs and lack of lives. The no-lifers ruin games just as much as the horribly casual do.

H+H is losing players if you didn't notice, but you're obviously a fanboy. I could say FFXIV is losing players on the FFXIV forums and they'd deny it. 4.0

Until the devs realize that the Old Guard is the vocal minority and not the majority, we'll see H+H take off. But right now its like Darkfall or Mortal Online all over again. Two games were 1% of the playerbase who are NEET control how the game functions.

[sabinati]

hi, welcome to the pvp sandbox game haven and hearth. please note that there isn't a no-pvp option.

there are several ways to secure your land, feel free to read the links in burginham's signature, and kindly stop posting your ridiculous drivel until you have done so. thanks in advance.

[sabinati]

p.s. don't accuse people of making ad hominem arguments when they clearly haven't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[TheInternetMan]

hi, welcome to the pvp sandbox game haven and hearth. please note that there isn't a no-pvp option.

there are several ways to secure your land, feel free to read the links in burginham's signature, and kindly stop posting your ridiculous drivel until you have done so. thanks in advance.

There are no ways to secure land in any capacity and you know it. You're another old guard lackey. Thanks for reducing my entire argument into the fallacy of "ridiculous drivel" and "no pvp carebear".

Apparently you missed the part where I AM AN ULTIMA ONLINE VETERAN. But you're probably in your teens so you've never played it during the 90s.

That's not a counter-claim or an argument, its just you giving up and flexing your moderator e-peen.

Until village claim wall jumping is removed there is no way to secure land other than killing anyone who gets anywhere near it and patrolling it 24/7. That's not secure if anyone is capable of killing you.

I've honestly probably read more of the wiki and searched the forum more than you have.

p.s. don't accuse people of making ad hominem arguments when they clearly haven't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Nice double post you're too incompetent to use the edit button.

You're also incapable of reading apparently. He entirely focused upon personal issues instead of the issue at hand. Its ad hominem and deflecting. Ad hominem isn't an argument, are you incompetant?

Seriously where did you learn reading comprehension?