something not completly different

[Avu]

For gunnar and others that get upset when I claim there is nothing worth saving and etc... well the way I see it if you truly are decent and just playing your own game not hurting others or hoping to grow strong enough to hurt others you are still guilty of a great sin, you are enabling the likes of dis ainran ad and all their wouldbes without people to raid and kill and bug ram they would eventually grow bored and find another game.

Also I don't see any of these imaginary decent folk talking up arms uniting working together to put a stop to the bad guys or at least making it less fun for them. You could claim that you'd have to employ their own methods to be even remotely competitive against them and you'd be right I had to do that with pande in order to fight off NNN and it kept escalating to the point where even with crazy wall jumping abuse and 8 hour plus raid during russian sleeping time digging mines down to level five and all it got us was a russian induced server crash that loftar admited to but did nothing about. That crash while saving the NNN vault also messed the server data that nuked one of my mansions where i had all my food (and it was a lot) with my hearthfire too (though my townmates figured it out and saved my char life by summoning it themselves ) my favorite mountain also got nuked. It was the last straw for me. The situation has grown progressively worse since then. What once was mortal sin abusing bugged coal or silly shit like that today has become account trading for real money, keylogger clients, account stealing, server crashing, lagging the clients of others so they can't fight back (hi arheolog), dos-ing the servers and these are only the meta abuses the ingame ones are without number but they do pale in comparison.

So you decent would be folk don't fight them because well you can't you'd have to become them so all you do is being cattle waiting for the slaughter and their amusement. Some of you may be lucky enough to enjoy an eternal nomadic life and good for you but what about everyone else? Some of those maybe are lucky enough to have found an island managed to brickwall it so it can't be bugrammed and are strong enough to break strongboxes and their only recourse is to hide behind those walls forever. Waiting for? Well I don't know what because for as long as you enable the bad guys they will be happy to be bad guys.

You mentioned my empathy and it's not bullshit but it's not a love everyone kind of deal either. I have a strict moral code that I go by and expect those I play with to go by as well. For example I think it's ok to use bugs against those that use bugs themselves AND hurt noobs or other people that do not use bugs. I think it's not ok to use any meta means other than whatever information one can gather about the others from their forum posts which is not that much to get ahead in the game, that includes all the things I listed above like account stealing dos-ing etc. I think helping noobs is the decent thing to do but helping those that do not or will not help themselves is more than just stupid. All of you are not helping yourselves by playing this broken wreck. I find it very hard to be empathic toward you.

To be fair I have 0 hope of this game ever returning to even a tiny bit of what it once was but that fault lies mainly with jorb and loftar and not due to the lack of development I understand they have to make a living but it has a lot to do with the way they choose to approach rules and their enforcing. Random acts of whatever you want to call it do not make for anything resembling fairness and the extreme leniency they have showed in the past compounded with the huge periods of time where they do nothing at all also encourages the kinds of behavior that have no place in any game.

And yes I firmly believe the game would be better off with the servers offline until they have time to work on it. Would it lose a lot of population when it's eventually back? Maybe. Would anyone weep over a lot of those that would be gone maybe finding some other game to destroy in the meantime? Not me. The thing is very few if any of the people that could and would build big strong decently white knight factions in the game are long gone while the scum and the ones that can't or won't think bigger than their nomad character or tiny walled island remain and will be here to influence any of the imaginary fixes that will maybe happen as well as the scum having a ready made network once the imaginary reboot does happen ensuring them a very strong start making any would be new white knight faction struggle extremely hard even more than the usual (it's always a lot easier to destroy than to build or protect something).

Do my opinions make you mad? Well I don't give a damn. I'm not a nice guy but I'd rather have a 100 of me as neighbours around than have one of Nao or Goo or Koya or others.

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[jordancoles]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

[burgingham]

Allright guys, nobody fucking cares wether you did not read Avus statement. Guess what, several billion other people did not either and you don't see those going on and on about it here.


Post in threads if you have something meaningful to say, otherwise just shut the fuck up. Feel like you guys are still in kindergarden, but if that was the case you shouldn't be playing a game like this tbh.

Moved all those posts to hel and warned the users. Now carry on with this thread, thank you.

[burgingham]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

[krikke93]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

Sorry for breaking a rule but...

+1

[Projeear]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

Neither are you.

[bmjclark]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

Sounds very familiar..again.

[APXEOLOG]

It's fun to see burgi + avu + krikke vs all other players.

[windmaker]

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

Sorry for breaking a rule but...

+1

idc if broke a rule, but this need +1... for millions

[jordancoles]

People like Coles, Arheolog etc do not belong on the side of your advisors, they deserve a kick out of any gaming community they stick their dirty noses into.

Explain to me again how you're still a moderator? What have I ever done to deserve being kicked from "any gaming community"? Ignorant fuck.

You'd rather explain to me how they ever made you a moderator. All you ever did was put your giant ego on display for the whole world to see, no matter the cost. You are really not that interesting to look at, believe me.

I enjoy raiding and posting stories, that has anything to do with moderation? You seem to throw a lot of hate around these forums ever since you quit and you do not do much else. I've reported many bugs (some of them critical) in Salem to the devs and have contributed a lot to that community, I haven't seen you contribute anything but bitching and moaning since world 5.

Maybe it's just paranoia, but I was told by someone that their account was stolen (later you returned account to him) but during the time it was stolen, Jordan Coles posted the guy's stats from Account page onto forums to taunt him. Perhaps the guy who told me this should post here to clarify.

I got the image from someone who was in their chat, I assume he posted the stats in there because Windmaker was never hacked (at least when I had anything to do with him. He might have gotten his account stolen in this recent account theft deal)

Lately you accuse everyone that has half a legit opinion of being stupid here. I really expected better of you, thought you were a decently intelligent guy that one could have a civil discussion with.

Funny.