Askania: Assassination attempts against its own villagers

[Nanoth]

To tell the truth, Yes Azk is a terrible leader, but then again, not many actually care about it. We are going at our own pace, and even if he had tried to put in coin shit, we wouldn't have used it, cause we are already working together well. Last I checked he has dropped the idea all together. If anything (and as much as it annoys me cause I never wanted it to begin with this world) people actually come to me first and ask me questions for help and such. Azk on the other hand has just been in his mine ignoring everyone after the Idol went up...

[Sarchi]

Well like his sig or info under his avatar said, "My dickery knows no bounds!"

[Nanoth]

Heres the other funny thing, Azk didn't Name the village (or group that is) it was another Member who suggested it, to make FUN of Azk's plans for an economy...

[Zamilpen]

Nanoth sounds like he is running this more than Azk is.

[Illanair]

Funny - that's not quite how I remember the discussion from the B12 forums, Kearn. I guess you ARE a backstabbing sore loser afterall.

Basically Kearn went on a tracker rage and began to aggrevate neighbor villages thinking he was a murderer/thief - which obviously the rest of "Teh capital" were not happy with. He was booted, came back, began fighting like children with Azk and now he's whining on the B12 forums, and here as well.


Let it be said (Regarding Orzammar atleast, as I have no intimate experience with Azk's Village) that we do not condone any acts of theft/murder. If you want to risk your life do it on your own time, away from our villages - the rest of us try to lead a civilized community where people help eachother achieve greater things by hard work, not by murdering weaker players or stealing their belongings.

TL/DR: Kearn is a QQ who got burned by his own greed, don't take him serious and let this thread die.

[Projeear]

Azkanan here.

During my time during World 3, I was undergoing a psychological bad time. Long story short, psychiatrists and now I'm all better. I made bad decisions, I snapped, I left.

World 4 starts up, I'm back, mentally stable.

1. Kearn was kicked once, but let back in as a second chance.
Before this first exile, there were a handful of village members calling for his execution. Others were against this. I wanted to please both parties to avoid a tear in the community, so I kicked him out temporarily as a warning, then let him back in.
He did about five minutes work towards the village, then went back to his ways of wandering about, doing nothing. He has been a complete waste of space. Fair enough, if that's how he wants to play, and isn't harming the village, he's welcome to stay. But when allies are saying he may have attacked one of their villagers, after tracking a trespassing scent? I had to kick him, for the safety of the village.

After exile, he moved about 20 seconds to the east. We destroyed his hearth fire. He spawned later. He obviously wasn't going to leave, and would eventually have his assault scent tracked back to us, and we'd all die.
So. A couple of new members invited him to build his hearth fire with them in the village with plans to kill him. I didn't discover this till later, and wasn't too pleased. I wanted to destroy his hearth fire so he'd respawn far away.
When I went to do so, yesterday, his hearth fire was gone and he wasn't anywhere to be seen.

End of problem.
Then this thread comes to my attention, today.

2. Naming
I didn't name it Askania. I wanted to call it Boatmurdered.

3. Leadership
Whilst the village was just a village, we had an Iron ore mine. I didn't know how deep the vein was, so I didn't want to hand out crafts constantly to everyone till we had at least a crate or two of emergency supplies for walls and such. Then the villagers started thinking that I was trying to pull a GIFF MUNNIES 2 ME, I RULE. So forth. So I decided to give away the ore, under fair levels. I gave iron crafts for food, so that I could spend less time roaming for food and more timing mining, ergo covering the losses I traded out.
I was right. The Iron Mine went bust, and we have just one crate of Iron in reserves.
Meanwhile, I've left everybody to their own whims after we got the palisade built, and now we all just help out when we can with whoever needs what.
Nano, you cannot comment on my leadership because you live on the other side of the world. You see me for about a half hour each day before you either go to work, or I've gone to bed.

TL;DR
- All is well.
- I am well.
- Kearn is a butthurt 12 year old who does nothing of use towards a village. Shit, he tried to join one of our allies, but they turned him away because of his recklessness and lack of usefulness, by well-earned reputation.

Oh, and, new account, Projeear. Why? I can't log into my Azkanan one, because of some database error. I've sent off the error report about 6 times. They fixed it once, but I guess it's a recurring error. Rather than bothering the Devs any further, I just made a new account.

The guy has a well documented history of instability. Last world he proposed the idea of taxes before his village even had anything real built.

Let me repeat that for emphasis. Taxes.

Where's DukeBenjy when you need him?

Taxes = Everybody donated a % of what they had to the granary/warehouse every X days.

DukeBenjy is a fine fellow who I apologized to, after I recovered.

Azkanan is weak. He is a dictator and can't even run his town and proven to be an idiot. After running failed towns, he wont get far.

This is another guy who I kicked out of my past village. The village itself was an experiment, Deadwood, to see how villages worked under a communistic Dictatorship. The villagers who were invited, were informed of this.
The previous two towns before this were newbie villages.
The first was where I first spawned in the game, next to a river. All our fish got stolen (We didn't know about personal claims!) so we ran away, afraid the thieves would come back with muscle (Good times, haha).
We then travelled south for about five minutes and resettled in-land. This got turned inside out by DukeBenjy, who we invited via the forum (lol, a complete stranger), who was actually a nice guy, but had enough of the sea of newbies (20+). He then slaughtered 3 or 4 of us, everybody else resettled as Elandor.

TL/DR: Kearn is a QQ who got burned by his own greed, don't take him serious and let this thread die.

This reminds me, in addition. Kearn *always* wanted to be the first at everything. If we found something new, he had to have it. When he died in the iron ore cave he found, because he mined too deeply without supports (cave in), we told him it was copper, something we already had. Why? So that he didn't go on a "LOLAWESOME, CAN I HAVE X, X, X, X, X, X...". When you say No to this kid, he sulks and become unproductive.
Eventually he found out. And, as we predicted, he asked for chainmail and some other items. That he was denied. Where he then went on one of his tracking funtimes for a couple of hours.

As for the mines he supposedly found, he showed me one which was about twenty minutes away by boat and foot, and was only q10 Iron. We are not interested in travelling this distance and will rely on Z-level mining instead.

[Kearn]

He did about five minutes work towards the village, then went back to his ways of wandering about, doing nothing. He has been a complete waste of space. Fair enough, if that's how he wants to play, and isn't harming the village, he's welcome to stay. But when allies are saying he may have attacked one of their villagers, after tracking a trespassing scent? I had to kick him, for the safety of the village.

After exile, he moved about 20 seconds to the east. We destroyed his hearth fire. He spawned later. He obviously wasn't going to leave, and would eventually have his assault scent tracked back to us, and we'd all die.
So. A couple of new members invited him to build his hearth fire with them in the village with plans to kill him. I didn't discover this till later, and wasn't too pleased. I wanted to destroy his hearth fire so he'd respawn far away.
When I went to do so, yesterday, his hearth fire was gone and he wasn't anywhere to be seen.

End of problem.

Hold up, chief.

York misunderstood my intentions after I tracked theft scents left everywhere to one of their villagers.

Actually, I ran inside their house and logged out because you attempted to assassinate me.

I built my hearth inside the village so I could spawn an alt and monitor them.

I destroyed my own hearth fire when I confirmed that the lot of you are back-stabbing murderers and thieves.

I have not respawned in the wild and am free to log in inside your village again.

[Projeear]

He did about five minutes work towards the village, then went back to his ways of wandering about, doing nothing. He has been a complete waste of space. Fair enough, if that's how he wants to play, and isn't harming the village, he's welcome to stay. But when allies are saying he may have attacked one of their villagers, after tracking a trespassing scent? I had to kick him, for the safety of the village.

After exile, he moved about 20 seconds to the east. We destroyed his hearth fire. He spawned later. He obviously wasn't going to leave, and would eventually have his assault scent tracked back to us, and we'd all die.
So. A couple of new members invited him to build his hearth fire with them in the village with plans to kill him. I didn't discover this till later, and wasn't too pleased. I wanted to destroy his hearth fire so he'd respawn far away.
When I went to do so, yesterday, his hearth fire was gone and he wasn't anywhere to be seen.

End of problem.

Hold up, chief.

York misunderstood my intentions after I tracked theft scents left everywhere to one of their villagers.

Actually, I ran inside their house and logged out because you attempted to assassinate me.

I built my hearth inside the village so I could spawn an alt and monitor them.

I destroyed my own hearth fire when I confirmed that the lot of you are back-stabbing murderers and thieves.

I have not respawned in the wild and am free to log in inside your village again.

So what was the point of trying to paint us as the bad guys, when you've just admitted you were being completed biased, and lying, with the original post?

Additionally; We are all thieves? Not just me, then? So, even the people who actually wanted to be your friends. You want them to die, too? Ye gods.
Additionally additional; We havn't stolen anything. Good luck tracking any theft scents. I've left one, maybe two trespassing scents trying to get to other scents to track, yesterday, and two assault scents. One of those was against you, and another was chasing a thief.

[Kearn]

So what was the point of trying to paint us as the bad guys, when you've just admitted you were being completed biased, and lying, with the original post?

Additionally; We are all thieves? Not just me, then? So, even the people who actually wanted to be your friends. You want them to die, too? Ye gods.
Additionally additional; We havn't stolen anything. Good luck tracking any theft scents. I've left one, maybe two trespassing scents trying to get to other scents to track, yesterday, and two assault scents. One of those was against you, and another was chasing a thief.

I suppose you don't know what Olives has been doing?

Breaking things on claimed land and murdering noobs for 500 LP. Vandalism, murder, trespassing, theft, battery, and assault. The whole deal.

If you're not thieves, you are leaders who sit with a pick in your hand and shout vulgar language at members and treat them like they're nothing.

My "friends" seem to be loyal to a dictator rather than to someone who knows a better village to move to. With the exception of Folly and Nano, you are all pitiful assassins, thieves, or bluntly, people who sit around telling others to get to work.

You are turning the village into an upside-down communist dictatorship. After a month with you, it tires me to the utter extreme that you're still taking that path.

[Projeear]

So what was the point of trying to paint us as the bad guys, when you've just admitted you were being completed biased, and lying, with the original post?

Additionally; We are all thieves? Not just me, then? So, even the people who actually wanted to be your friends. You want them to die, too? Ye gods.
Additionally additional; We havn't stolen anything. Good luck tracking any theft scents. I've left one, maybe two trespassing scents trying to get to other scents to track, yesterday, and two assault scents. One of those was against you, and another was chasing a thief.

I suppose you don't know what Olives has been doing?

Breaking things on claimed land and murdering noobs for 500 LP. Vandalism, murder, trespassing, theft, battery, and assault. The whole deal.

And I suppose he told you, out of all people, this in confidence. Or maybe, he told everyone except me! Gasp! Conspiracy! Meanwhile, he's been doing a damn fine job building palisades, farming and hunting. I'm sure he has had time to do all this, that you say.

If you're not thieves, you are leaders who sit with a pick in your hand and shout vulgar language at members and treat them like they're nothing.

My "friends" seem to be loyal to a dictator rather than to someone who knows a better village to move to. With the exception of Folly and Nano, you are all pitiful assassins, thieves, or bluntly, people who sit around telling others to get to work.

You are turning the village into an upside-down communist dictatorship. After a month with you, it tires me to the utter extreme that you're still taking that path.

Yes. We are all the leaders who all your base belong to us.

We have the worst village in the game. We are the enemy. I'm so evil and horrible to my members, that they all choose to stay and are defending me against all of Your accusations, and choose to live happily in the village.

Meanwhile Kearn, you're the only person who complains the village, and this just so happens to coincide with the event of you being kicked out and humiliated.

Oddly, however, you were praising how this was the best village ever, just a few days ago and sucking up to me, after the first exile.

Grow up.