Randomly knocked out-Russians!

[thirdworldboy]

The Ukraine is Russian and always was. Ukrainians are Russians and always were. Ukrainian and Russian are branches of the same language.

Similar differences in language and culture between subgroups of one ethnic group may be seen in other countries, like Germany or China. Chinese even have similar political fragmentation (ROC vs PRC).

hmm, but somehow Ukrainian Prince Yuri I Dovgorukiy was founder of of Moscow

Firstly, you misspelled his name. Secondly, he was Russian from Russian city of Kiev.

Term "Ukranian" is of Polish origin. There were no Ukranians or Ruthenians until Poland captured west part of Russia in Middle Ages. Those true Ukranians are from what is now Western Ukraine. After Russia finally reunited in XVIII people from most part of what is now Ukraine still did not know they are Ukranians, they identify themselves as Russians.

Now-days Ukrainians are of invented ethnicity. At the beginning of XX communist revolutioneers pursuing their goals had used term "Ukranian" and "Ukraine" to make a separate Ukraine Republic. Then during WWII Nazi propaganda used this to spread the idea that Ukranians are not Russians, so they could raise pro-Reich nationalist groups there.

After 1991, Ukrainian governemnt began Ukrainization of Ukraine. They started to clear Ukrainian language of words which are similar to their Russian counterparts, changing them to words similar to Polish but which were never used before or just inventing new ones. They forced Ukranian language to be used as official (though Russian is still most used language, and even those "Ukranians are Ukranians, not Russians" politicians use Russian language in everyday life). They have corrected education program and history textbooks so new generation could learn that Ukranians are (allegedly) a separate ethnicity.

When Moscow was founded, there were no such pathetic pussy-nations like Ukrainians or Russians. Besides, it was not founded by knyaz Dolgorukiy, or Dovgorukiy, whatever he is called in Russian or Ukrainian respectively. Concerning all further elaborations of the matter, it is complete and stellar bullshit that could be placed in Paris Hall of Weights and Measurements as a paragon piece of shameless, deluded bullshit.

What a remarkably brainwashed view on the history of Eastern Europe. Not to mention your complete ignorance about the matters of language, ethnicity and nationality. You might as well go define Latvians as Russians, Swiss and Austrian as Germans, and Americans as British. The result will be pretty much the same - your sorry ass gang-raped and lynched. You are embarrassing yourself.

[parapheen]

lol this thread is ridiculous. Dear Russians, stop discussing Russian history with dem trolls please.
Anyway this untermenschen European rubbish is nothing in comparison with the glorious Chinese nation.

[al]

When Moscow was founded, there were no such pathetic pussy-nations like Ukrainians or Russians. Besides, it was not founded by knyaz Dolgorukiy, or Dovgorukiy, whatever he is called in Russian or Ukrainian respectively. Concerning all further elaborations of the matter, it is complete and stellar bullshit that could be placed in Paris Hall of Weights and Measurements as a paragon piece of shameless, deluded bullshit.

What a remarkably brainwashed view on the history of Eastern Europe. Not to mention your complete ignorance about the matters of language, ethnicity and nationality. You might as well go define Latvians as Russians, Swiss and Austrian as Germans, and Americans as British. The result will be pretty much the same - your sorry ass gang-raped and lynched. You are embarrassing yourself.

1. Moscow as a city was founded by Dolgorukiy.
2. When it happent Russians were Russians already. Even before they took this name they had identified themselves as Slovene and considered they were the same people, they had common language and religion.
3. You are a pathetic pussy yourself (and your mother too, and mother of your mother, and mother of her mother).

[Seppuku]

I for one am glad the Russians are getting into the Full PVP MMO's. It's great for all that Cold War tension I had built up as a child from the 80's. Die Commies!

[burgingham]

What a remarkably brainwashed view on the history of Eastern Europe.

I am starting to get the feeling that it isn't uncommon among certain groups of eastern europeans to still have an all around ideologially fatuous view on the world and especially their own history. This probably can be said about groups in every country, maybe the sample size of what I read in here is just an unlucky assortment.

When I start to argue about it I am always directly referred to as a Nazi, due to me being German. So I guess I won't bother anymore. Just an information to all the russians: Liberal (as in liberty, not as a political stance) media and education are fun

[al]

What a remarkably brainwashed view on the history of Eastern Europe.

I am starting to get the feeling that it isn't uncommon among certain groups of eastern europeans to still have an all around ideologially fatuous view on the world and especially their own history. This probably can be said about groups in every country, maybe the sample size of what I read in here is just an unlucky assortment.

When I start to argue about it I am always directly referred to as a Nazi, due to me being German. So I guess I won't bother anymore. Just an information to all the russians: Liberal (as in liberty, not as a political stance) media and education are fun

You are African, because German people are Africans. And if you say you are not then, yes, you are Nazi who has fatuous view on the history of the world and who doesn't like Black People.

[Potjeh]

I read everything you write here. Im ukarainian, 2 days ago some mother fucker come to my settelment fith his friend and just start to kill my friends. All that time he kept repeating smth like this - AD-sux! Mineville rule, But if im or my friend writing Cyrillic its not mean THAT we are A.D. We was just peaceful farmers, we are not agressive, we just working on our plains and was killed for nothing. how can u explain this?

I explain it as a bad case of being a dick. If you weren't Ukrainian, he would've found another excuse to kill you. It's just that nationalism gets the most butthurt posts on the forum, so every griefer is using it to "justify" his deeds nowadays. Don't worry, people of all nationalities get the same.

[Firemind]

I explain it as a bad case of being a dick. If you weren't Ukrainian, he would've found another excuse to kill you. It's just that nationalism gets the most butthurt posts on the forum, so every griefer is using it to "justify" his deeds nowadays. Don't worry, people of all nationalities get the same.

i do not think so, im sure that they kill us only for our Cyrillic run stones around or settelment

[Grog]

yes, but if you had not those you were either attacked by them too, by some other raiding troop or by ad itself...

[Potjeh]

Nah, I bet the same guy would still kill them.