Aradoth

[Grelf]

Yes, people forget that they are interacting with real people behind their characters. It's not about separating fantasy from reality, you guys are way off. It's about treating one another with respect, or face the consequences.
How would you feel if you caused someone misery and had them commit suicide? And how would you feel if that resulted in you getting charged because there "IS" some laws on internet use when it comes to human to human interactions.

Like a ripple in the water, every action deserves a reaction, and the same will occur for all reactions that occur afterward.

I don't know what you're trying to achieve with this, who lacked respect towards whom in this thread? Aside from Sarvoth calling the OP stupid, of course. The current world is full of raiders and people who are just waiting for an opportunity to steal everything from you, so we do need to take drastic decisions to defend our property. People who are easily insulted obviously don't belong here. Being nice and kind to strangers in the current setting as to the degrees described in this thread only gets you backstabbed, just as in real life, except that in real life there are rules to be followed, and in the game there are barely any. It's funny to see people who believe that everyone can just hug each other in-game and live in a panda country of peaceful people where everyone can trust every single stranger around. You've got to be terribly naive if you believe such. You can't change the world.

[Jackard]

Renaming thread because it's ridiculous.

[TeckXKnight]

Ah, I just assumed it was you or your alt because you seemed to be whining the most in the thread. You have a way at evoking hatred towards yourself.

You assumed wrong.

I don't like needless killing, a lot of people prefer it. dra6o0n made an excellent post, you should read it. I didn't do any whining.

You've yet to make a post where you did not whine and try to play yourself up in this thread. Without exception. Dragoon's post has 0 relevance to my point. Dragoon's ideology is based on extremes and promotes limited interactivity. Essentially, you need to safety proof the internet and the interactions that one may process or dole out. In this case both sides are casting the other in a bad light and flaming began -- he said to knock that off. That's great and has nothing to do with me cutting down your argument unless you make the case that my post is nothing but a flame or a personal attack against you. Go right ahead.
I am a person of limitless patience and your words in this thread have managed to make me seethe. Kudos. I mad.

[Osium]

Yes, people forget that they are interacting with real people behind their characters. It's not about separating fantasy from reality, you guys are way off. It's about treating one another with respect, or face the consequences.
How would you feel if you caused someone misery and had them commit suicide? And how would you feel if that resulted in you getting charged because there "IS" some laws on internet use when it comes to human to human interactions.

Like a ripple in the water, every action deserves a reaction, and the same will occur for all reactions that occur afterward.

Rofl. There is so much wrong with this post that I can't even begin to address it all.

1) If anyone playing this game is suicidal, go seek a mental health professional and get the fuck off the internet because you need professional help.

2) If someone killed in a game tops themselves because of it, see point 1.

3) There are ZERO laws that deal with "Someone killed me in a video game so I killed myself"

[dra6o0n]

The OP could have assumed that because people were going in and out that the town was friendly and that it was open to the public

What kind of idiot would assume this? Stop whiteknighting him.

The term would be "victimizing", or basically, trying to "guilt trip".

Anyone who started the game with a new character, and didn't interacted with other people for a while.
Plus, the interaction differs because said person might have different influences from the time they spent on the internet.
If they were a MMO gamer, they likely think you're dissing them when you trapped him, so he easily dissed you, then find out permadeath, then it led to this.

You know, there was a possible way to end this from the start.

Say "Yes, you died because of misconception, sorry but you are lucky you didn't die and lose a months worth of LP".

This game has a retarded feel of people's "Logic vs Logic" going on because we have the freedom to express it. Much more because it's open world.

[Jackard]

Sounds like some fuckers need to read the stickies. These recent threads have been very stupid.

[gadien]

The OP could have assumed that because people were going in and out that the town was friendly and that it was open to the public

What kind of idiot would assume this? Stop whiteknighting him.

The term would be "victimizing", or basically, trying to "guilt trip".

Anyone who started the game with a new character, and didn't interacted with other people for a while.
Plus, the interaction differs because said person might have different influences from the time they spent on the internet.
If they were a MMO gamer, they likely think you're dissing them when you trapped him, so he easily dissed you, then find out permadeath, then it led to this.

You know, there was a possible way to end this from the start.

Say "Yes, you died because of misconception, sorry but you are lucky you didn't die and lose a months worth of LP".

This game has a retarded feel of people's "Logic vs Logic" going on because we have the freedom to express it. Much more because it's open world.

Its called RTFM

[Sarvoth]

You've yet to make a post where you did not whine and try to play yourself up in this thread. Without exception. Dragoon's post has 0 relevance to my point. Dragoon's ideology is based on extremes and promotes limited interactivity. Essentially, you need to safety proof the internet and the interactions that one may process or dole out. In this case both sides are casting the other in a bad light and flaming began -- he said to knock that off. That's great and has nothing to do with me cutting down your argument unless you make the case that my post is nothing but a flame or a personal attack against you. Go right ahead.
I am a person of limitless patience and your words in this thread have managed to make me seethe. Kudos. I mad.

The discussion went well beyond the context of this specific situation, I said that I didn't know enough about it to bother with it. According to others I'm 'white knighting' and called the OP stupid, I haven't done either of those things directly. I wonder how many people who post a response read the thread in its entirety.

I do not know if the OP ran into the town to steal, I do not know if he was told to leave or if he was invited in to an ambush, I do not know who is lying and who isn't. Realistically both the OP and Osium are likely 'interpreting' and explaining the situation to favor themselves. You didn't cut down an argument of mine as the only real argument I have is that senseless killing is senseless and everyone benefits from thoughtful action (read discretion). I do not agree with everything that dra6o0n has said but he does bring up an excellent point about respect and human interaction which is why I suggested that you read the post as it might tip you off as to why my point of view is one of 'talk first, shoot later'.

If someone you like (a real life friend, for example) was under your care and learning to play the game happened to wander into my village because I left the gate open and was shot dead immediately as a result I doubt you'd be too happy about it. You would blame me for leaving my gate open and insist that his intentions were pure and I am a douchebag, right? Or would you turn on your friend and tell him he's an idiot and pat me on the back for a job well done?

As human beings our loyalty and behaviors are fickle, the less impulsiveness we display the better, for everyone. Our operatives should never be those of violence, bigotry, or neglect. Those things often go hand in hand and it really matters little where they appear be it in a game or our day to day lives, the two are not as separate as it seems. The drama and violence of the game is exciting as nobody is REALLY hurt but I will always be on the conservative side of the line. Will I kill someone who deserves it? Absolutely. Will I shoot random newbies who don't know any better for nothing? Not if I can avoid it. I am not so impulsive in my real life and I try not to be in this game either, I have no reason to prefer ruining someones time as opposed to exercising a bit of patience.

If you choose to shoot people for your towns mistakes then so be it, more power to you but you and those of like mind shouldn't be surprised when indiscriminate action comes back their/your way.

[Jackard]

If you choose to shoot people for your towns mistakes then so be it, more power to you but you and those of like mind shouldn't be surprised when indiscriminate action comes back their way.

They have already said they are aware of this reality...... do you just enjoy sermonizing or something?

[Sarvoth]

If you choose to shoot people for your towns mistakes then so be it, more power to you but you and those of like mind shouldn't be surprised when indiscriminate action comes back their way.

They have already said they are aware of this reality...... do you just enjoy ranting or something?

Not particularly, multiple people have been replying to me with slightly different inputs. It's tough to avoid overlapping post content when I'm playing and simultaneously replying to several new posts. I also have to repeat things because people either took something out of context (as you did) or completely missed something and baited me.

What was the point of your question? I missed it.