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[burgingham]

[Airleas]

Giving out any information not intended to be seen by others is very very fucking low man. I don't care if it was after the world ended or when HnH shuts down for good its a fucking pitiful move.

To explain the "childishness" seen in Sodom chat, what do you expect? In a highly stressful environment like HnH you need a place to relieve that stress. Although at times I agree it got a little excessive and annoying (Darki and Jesse ) it was a very productive environment at other times.

The insulting of AD was also a measure of stress/anger removal. How would you feel to be needlessly killed by AD as I was? Or to have your friends killed for no reasons? To see decent villages fall because of thieves punished harsher than needed? Instead of just launching a full out war on AD at first we tried to believe what they said. It slowly became evident how much of lying little bitches they truly are.

Basically, don't critique what you have no knowledge of. I never saw you participate in any conversations and had no clue who the fuck you were until I heard you were the spy.

I don't recall saying it was some glorious moment of achievement? Hurray to you for having an opinion though?

Kind of contradict yourself there at the end don't you? You /assume/ I haven't died needlessly, you /assume/ I have no knowledge of things happening around me/to people around me.

I actually did participate in several discussions, typically nothing involving huge earth moments or ideas for Sodom, as I was the new guy, I figured I'd just let the oldies develop there town how they saw fit, and pave roads/mine/build walls to help their idea along.

You openly admit you don't know who I am/anything about me, then tell me not to critique something I have no knowledge of? Uhm... K? Should practice what you preach no?

I don't understand how this game is so stressful, yeah, it's got permadeath and there is shit you shouldn't do/should do to stay alive, but once you have the handle on that, where is this mountain of stress? If it stresses you out that bad, maybe you should find something to do OTHER then play the -game-? Granted it's enjoyable (was for me anyway while I played more actively), I never found it overly stressful, even prior to living in the giant walled area that was Sodom. I've actually been killed several times, I got my shit together and moved on. But you keep clinging onto that hatred over a dead toon.

[Airleas]

@Data,

As I've previously explained in several posts. It was never the intent from the beginning. If it was, there were many things I could've done prior to -- as I also said earlier. I actually had no previous contact with Koya prior to the duping bug starting. And the info was only given to him to try and muster a final clash between forces (which never really happened, or at least to the scale like I would've liked to have seen.) There were the skirmishes that were in that other archived thread, but nothing spectacular, unless I am blind (reading from a phone sucks). And before Rye rages again -- I never said it was a great or wonderous thing of me to do, I have even admitted it was a rather shady thing of me.

I did and still do appreciate the help I did receive, don't get me wrong. Which seems probably contradicting given what I did. But tis true. I wanted a nice battle, I did not receive, and have ended up with a fairly tainted name, and I can live with that.

Also, has anyone even heard from Kaz in like months? I haven't seen him since he brickwalled his plot & mine while I was working.

[Dataslycer]

So in other words, your information giving was more or less an attempt to try to instigate a battle between Sodom and AD during the final days? Honestly, that was not a very smart move as it was going to happen sooner or later (and I honestly am having a hard time believing it because of this). Frustration on both side against the other were built up, only held back by the brick walls. You already say the Battle of BHB as well...

And btw you are wrong, a large scale clash did happen at Nople, Sodom vs AD. Most of our alliance forces were left standing. Too bad I wasn't part of it. Virus was still bitter about it in IRC at W4 which is silly since that was world 3 that happen and we both plan a final clash anyhow.

[Sarchi]

Virus is bitter because Nyar stole his balls.

[Nahp]

Man what's all this IP stuff? Are you guys like spying on me or something? Really, to someone who doesn't know much about networks, like me, it seems reeeeaaaallly sketchy.

I imagine joining a village as a spy. that village just so happens to have a moderator, and this moderator can tell who i am on the forum, all alt accounts, everything

is this ok

[virus_128]

no, i wasn't bitter. It's just a game, where i can relax and spend my time

[Airleas]

So in other words, your information giving was more or less an attempt to try to instigate a battle between Sodom and AD during the final days? Honestly, that was not a very smart move as it was going to happen sooner or later (and I honestly am having a hard time believing it because of this). Frustration on both side against the other were built up, only held back by the brick walls. You already say the Battle of BHB as well...

And btw you are wrong, a large scale clash did happen at Nople, Sodom vs AD. Most of our alliance forces were left standing. Too bad I wasn't part of it. Virus was still bitter about it in IRC at W4 which is silly since that was world 3 that happen and we both plan a final clash anyhow.

If it was anything more then that, there is a lot more I could have done really. Such as I mentioned before, breaking infrastructure, telling Koya/others when X person was out alone doing whatever (although, would have been impossible prior to the last 2 days when was when the conversations happened), for two examples.

Ah, I'll go reread the thread once I have a moment to read through it properly. Like I said, reading stuff off of a phone sucks.

[Dataslycer]

And the info was only given to him to try and muster a final clash between forces.

If it was anything more then that, there is a lot more I could have done really. Such as I mentioned before, breaking infrastructure, telling Koya/others when X person was out alone doing whatever.

Explain a bit?

Also there is a reason why both side didn't wish a huge conflict too early. Both side would undoubtedly be heavily damaged and worn regardless of the outcome.

[Airleas]

I've explained it several times already.

1. There was no "master plan".
2a. If I had intended to back stab and plot against you from the start, I would've had to have been talking to Koya prior to the dupe bug/world reset announcement, which I wasnt.
2b. If I had intended to do anything but rile up Koya at the end into fighting openly with Sodom (which I guess did happen at the very end finally, I want to read that thread ), would I not have broke things inside the city? Forges/smelters/ovens etc? Cupboards in the mine? Try and give him info to find Sodom members while they were out hunting or scouting or whatever you would like to call it?
3. Would I not have tried to find weakpoints for him to attack with whoever?

I'm starting to sound like a broken record here.