how to resist invaders - would appreciate some help!

[Tharsonius]

Some invaders (a pox on them) have erected a village claim covering my stake claim, and diplomacy doesn't seem to work. After they've been harrassing my friends I'm not very eager to join them (my russian sucks anyway), so being a fairly new player I could use some pointers on the mechanism of claims to make it as cumbersome as possible for them to succeed with their invasion.

1. A friend advised me to close the gates of my palisade and then de-claim, since I'd be contributing to their authority as long as I have a stake claim inside their village. As I understand it though, I'm not a villager even if their city claim covers my stake claim, so I don't contribute to their authority unless I choose to accept an invitation to join the village. Which view on the mechanism is correct? If necessary I'd drop the claim, but I'd rather resist a bit and not give in easily.

2. If I keep my stake claim intact, will the invading villagers be able to walk on my ground and/or take my stuff due to the area being inside their village claim, or does my personal stake claim supersede that village claim? (until they got enough authority to de-claim me of course, but at least it'll cost them in that case)

3. is there, apart from making sure there won't be anything left to steal by the time they got high enough authority to declaim me, an efficient way to sabotage them or hamper their efforts? I'm not a warrior type and don't have high (20-) stats yet, my own area is shut in and can't expand anymore, both my own area and their village claim building are palisaded and they got several banners spread around the area.


Other advice is welcome too, of course! Tharsonius

[Niacide]

1. I am very sure you have to be a Member of a village to give it authority

2.No, they can not walk on your claim and take your stuff any more than a person outside the village could, they still need trespassing, thieving and vandalism. this of course changes when they get enough authority to de-claim you

3. Sadly, No


Any tips or advice: If you desperately need more space to carry stuff, you can carry a boat while you are in boat

[Girlinhat]

Keep expanding your claim.

[TeckXKnight]

You are one person fighting many people; the odds are not stacked in your favor. One solution, if you are capable, would be a murdering spree. I do not believe this is a realistic option for you, however. If they do expand on to you, you will likely have little recourse but to move on or buy the assistance of others that can help.

They have many advantages on you and, at this point, the most you can hope to do is hinder or annoy them. I'd suggest just moving onto greener pastures and letting this go if they do expand to your claim.

[bmjclark]

How many are there and where abouts are you. If there arent too many, me and my friends could likely come help.

[Windforce]

Becareful though, they could declaim your claim stake. And since their village claim covers your personal claim, you are/will be unable to expand your claim any further.

In terms of acess rights, a PClaim takes priority over a Vclaim.

[ItsFunToLose]

Keep expanding your claim.

This. Eventually your claim will be too large to declaim. The maximum authority for a newly constructed village is 250,000. I don't remember the exact cost to declaim a personal claim, but it becomes quite expensive very quickly. After your claim is large enough, they would need to make banners or statues to expand their maximum authority, essentially making it no longer worth their trouble to try.

[MagicManICT]

Keep expanding your claim.

And since their village claim covers your personal claim, you are/will be unable to expand your claim any further.

[Jackwolf]

After your claim is large enough, they would need to make banners or statues to expand their maximum authority, essentially making it no longer worth their trouble to try.

[Tharsonius]

Thanks so much for all those reactions! Wrote it before getting some sleep and crossed my fingers there'd be a reply when waking up – but I didn't expect multiple ones so fast already. An early christmas present

If apparently
* my continued presence inside their village area doesn't add to their authority
* my continued presence inside their village doesn't imperil my goods until they have enough authority to de-claim me
* de-claiming costs them a lot

it sounds like the best course of action is to maintain my claim here, claim a 'sanctuary base' elsewhere with an alt to move my goods to and - given I cannot expand my current claim anymore and (as TeckXKnight said) a murdering spree isn't really feasable - just go on at my alt's new sanctuary spot while letting my old claim hamper them by being in their way or costing them authority to declaim?

(sounds a bit nasty and sour maybe, but under normal circumstances I'm not an aggressive player or griefer - I just get really irked by people who show up only to destroy and grab what others made)