i defended my house but i need help

[matiasdk2]

Okey , this not drama thread so i gonna go to my point

Last month i made a thread looking for combat tips , now someone attacked my homeland and i killed the intruder , i guess he thought i was a unnarmed person or was just someone more new to the combat than me
The thing is i were lucky (or the intruder very unlucky) because even when i did read the guide stickied on this section i dont understand how the combat works vs other players because it only teach you how to fight animals . . . or maybe im just missunderstunding (if that how you spell it ? does that word even exist ? , lol ) the info.

1.What i do when a player start to uses some manouvers on me ? how counter em ?.
2.Why i need UA ? i did read full melee is useless and nobish.
3.Should i go 1:1 ML and UA ? or more UA than ML ? i should avoid full melee ? if yes then why ?
4.Wich skills i should really use and which ones not ?.

I would really someone could explaing me this and maybe something important i did not ask
Most fun i have in the game comes from killing animals but sometimes i would like to help neighs getting ride of some bad people , but all this questions and the complicated systems is not letting me .
I fell in any moment i would have a real fight and i not prepared
Thanks to anyone to take time to elaborate in this thread and my sincere apologies if im asking something that was already answered in another thread (and for my awfull grammar )

[TeckXKnight]

When someone uses moves on you, you set your maneuver and then use moves right back on them.
Unarmed is vital because it determines your delta. Your delta is the sqrt(Your UA/Their UA). So if you have 50 UA and they have 200 UA, then they have Delta 2 on you. Delta is important because it determines how effective your maneuvers are. For example, Oak stance gives +5% Defense * Delta. So if you set Oak Stance as your maneuver, every time your opponent uses a move on you, you're gaining ~2% Defense. Whereas your opponent is gaining 10% defense every time. The difference is pretty huge, as you can see, based off of your UA difference.

Melee does not contribute to Delta at all.

You generally want more UA than Melee but having at least some amount of Melee is good due to the sheer damage output that Swords can put out. It is not difficult to push the damage into the thousands.

I'm not well enough to be up and about, even typing, for very long so I can't answer your question on moves and special moves at the moment, as they are a big factor in combat. Just know that everything is pretty useful =)

[treehugger318]

You didn't understand how combat works yet you bought Rage, Murder and enough skills to murder a raider?

[matiasdk2]

ya whats wrong with that ? some day i need learn more about it ..

[SpiderJerusalem]

You didn't understand how combat works yet you bought Rage, Murder and enough skills to murder a raider?

looks like he is a natural talent...what wrong about it

[cloakblade]

Don't go Melee at all until you have a firm grasp of the combat system and feel confident you can use Melee to your advantage. You also shouldn't touch it until at least 100 UA in my opinion.

Are you confused on what maneuvers do over all? When you should use each one? How to take advantage of what your opponent is doing? You cannot directly counter any maneuver as they work on your own stats. So when your opponent Oaken Stances he is trading Attack for Defense, when he Death or Glory he is trading Defense for IP, and with bloodlust they are gaining attack. The only one you can "counter" or abuse is Bloodlust when your opponent uses Bloodlust they have effectively half their defense bar (due to the weight of bloodlust) This means that if he has a full defense bar and you attack him with 50% of your attack bar while he is Bloodlusting you will deal the same as if you had 100% of your attack bar and he wasn't Bloodlusting. You should also keep this in mind for when you are fighting I try and avoid using Bloodlust except for when my opponent has less that 50% attack bar (even less if my defense is low).
Beyond that there is no way to stop what they are doing, just know what they are trying to gain.

[Sevenless]

When someone uses moves on you, you set your maneuver and then use moves right back on them.
Unarmed is vital because it determines your delta. Your delta is the sqrt(Your UA/Their UA). So if you have 50 UA and they have 200 UA, then they have Delta 2 on you. Delta is important because it determines how effective your maneuvers are. For example, Oak stance gives +5% Defense * Delta. So if you set Oak Stance as your maneuver, every time your opponent uses a move on you, you're gaining ~2% Defense. Whereas your opponent is gaining 10% defense every time. The difference is pretty huge, as you can see, based off of your UA difference.

Melee does not contribute to Delta at all.

You generally want more UA than Melee but having at least some amount of Melee is good due to the sheer damage output that Swords can put out. It is not difficult to push the damage into the thousands.

I'm not well enough to be up and about, even typing, for very long so I can't answer your question on moves and special moves at the moment, as they are a big factor in combat. Just know that everything is pretty useful =)

Slight update: Combat change
by loftar » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:20 pm

Greetings,

I just changed the combat so that the Δ factor in maneuvers is capped upwards at 1.0. This means, for instance, that you will never gain more than 5% defense per hit when using Oak Stance, though you will still gain less than that when fighting someone with greater attack weight than your block weight.

Not to nitpit too much, but delta is capped at one now. Wonder if that somehow buffs melee or not...

And it's not hard to beat off an unskilled griefer with 50UA if you have 100+UA. Enough LP can make up for the slight skill difference really.

[Radenk]

Not to nitpit too much, but delta is capped at one now. Wonder if that somehow buffs melee or not...

It's capped at 2 . It was going to be capped at 1 initially but 3 posts after the original post changed loftar's mind so he increased it by 1.

However this will only take place after the next reset (not sure if it has already happened). Right now it's capped at 1.

[matiasdk2]

what that exactly mean ?

[cloakblade]

what that exactly mean ?

That means that if the opponent has more than 4 times your UA they can't get more from their maneuver's than as though they had 4 times your UA. You'll still probably lose if they have that much more UA than you any ways. It was more to make abusing alt sparring harder.