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Weapon Penetration

Postby GoldDragon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:42 pm

didn't find this anywhere on wiki
how much % penetration have all 3 types of damage? UA, Melee and MM...

and couple of little questions for don't making another thread:
can i use murder skill with a bow? (or other missile weapon)
is it possible for now to get somewhere Ranger's Bow with q80+? with q60+?
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 pm

I believe only UA has penetration and it's 30%? Not 100% sure here. I believe someone better qualified will come along and clarify.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby GoldDragon » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:24 pm

30%? hmm, quiet big, even for my str 50 it's about 35 dmg through armor

100% is for famous Chuck Norris foot blow :lol:
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby GrandProject » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:04 pm

and couple of little questions for don't making another thread:
can i use murder skill with a bow? (or other missile weapon)

Yes, unless it's changed since world 4, it is absolutely possible to kill someone using a bow, albeit, if they're wearing armour it takes a rather long time.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby Sevenless » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:16 pm

MM - Penetrates defense bar, 0% armor pen
Melee - Does not penetrate def bar, 0% armor pen
UA - Does not penetrade def bar, 30% armor pen

UA pen seems like a lot, but you're not considering what weapon damage gets up to (STR helps there as well). You can get up to 2k+ damage (easily with good Q shit), and for most people at this point in the game that will pen all armor and insta kill. Just need the def bar gone first.

Murder is required for attacking characters who are unconcious iirc. Does not matter which form of attack you use.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby Dataslycer » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:31 pm

Only two type damage has some bypass damage, unarmed and axe. Unarmed has a bypass of 30%, been a while since I did axe but I recall it was rather low like 10% or so.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby Windforce » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:40 pm

But B12 has a very high base dmg to make up for that 10%.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby Sevenless » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:41 pm

Dataslycer wrote:Only two type damage has some bypass damage, unarmed and axe. Unarmed has a bypass of 30%, been a while since I did axe but I recall it was rather low like 10% or so.


Reeeeeeeeally now. First I've ever heard of that. Does it work for stone axes as well? (easier to test without breaking armor)
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:32 pm

Sevenless wrote:
Dataslycer wrote:Only two type damage has some bypass damage, unarmed and axe. Unarmed has a bypass of 30%, been a while since I did axe but I recall it was rather low like 10% or so.


Reeeeeeeeally now. First I've ever heard of that. Does it work for stone axes as well? (easier to test without breaking armor)

Only B12 I believe, and we did tests when Gato made a B12 for funsies, and out of nowhere everything was like "wut how'd you break my armor to do damage", and lulz was had.
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Re: Weapon Penetration

Postby Dataslycer » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:35 pm

It applies to both stone axe and B12 battle axe unless something was changed or I had a massive memory decay.
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