Beer vs wine

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Beer vs wine

Postby Mateusz_Zboj » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:28 pm

I have noticed that it is much easier to produce wine than beer. (Especially for the requirement of tin for mug)
Will beer fill the bar further than wine then? Or maybe; will it give some special bonuses?
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby Wipeout » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:31 pm

Wine beer both make amount of fep you have to get lower. Beer also fills you up more than wine(bad thing imo). There both good just make both :D
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby trondaron » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:48 pm

As wipeout said it is useful to have both. They both give their own variety bonus to the total FEP required.

Wine is indeed easier to produce, but beer can be used in one of the food recipes.
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby Girlinhat » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:56 pm

I find beer much easier to produce, and especially easier to store! Wine turns to vinegar in a barrel. Beer remains beer forever. You can store buckets in a cupboard, or you can store beer in barrels, which is convenient and easy, and looks pretty nice too. The personal preference is there too. I prefer beer on account of it being beer, drunk from metal mugs dipped straight from the barrel. A barrel which is placed alongside 3 others that flank your bonfire and assorted tables.
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby btaylor » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:42 pm

Even though Russia has declared that beer is no longer a food, the principle remains the same in H&H. Once you have beer, you never have to eat again. Just drink your starvation away!
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby Phaen » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:57 pm

For travel weariness they are the same, but beer removes twice as much hunger, so wine is preferred.

For FEP, if I'm not feeling lazy/rushed, I drink 0.1L of each in every "meal" for the variety bonus.

For storage and inventory management, I prefer beer because I can store beer in a barrel.
I don't even need to set down my boat to fill up the tankard I always have in my inventory.

Also, wine may be easier to produce but I personally have more fun making beer :D
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby SaintGilbert » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:56 am

Mateusz_Zboj wrote:I have noticed that it is much easier to produce wine than beer. (Especially for the requirement of tin for mug)
Will beer fill the bar further than wine then? Or maybe; will it give some special bonuses?


Beer will give you HP and decrease travel weariness. Wine will not. But in a wine barrel wine will turn into vinegar whereas beer will be beer forever. You can store, like, 100 L of liquid in a barrel, right? A large chest can hold 120 L (10 buckets), which is 60 L per square. Beer is definitely better in terms of storage, then. But wine is easier to make and better for low-level players.

If you still can't decide whether to drink beer or wine, are you trying to be classy, or manly? Tankards are manly. Wine glasses are classy. Classy people tend to be sophisticated, build villages, trade, and generally be peaceful people. Manly people tend to be barbaric, destroy villages, have great weapons and tools, and generally tend to be warlike people.
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby Girlinhat » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:43 am

Wine is more space efficient inside. A cupboard can hold like 120L of buckets, while a barrel holds 100L. But barrels can be moved more easily, stored anywhere, and don't turn beer into vinegar. I also feel that for extended hunting trips or general expeditions, a barrel of beer tossed in the wagon is always handy to have.

Also, I'm unfamiliar with this. How do you refill beer without setting your boat down?
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:15 am

Girlinhat wrote:Wine is more space efficient inside. A cupboard can hold like 120L of buckets, while a barrel holds 100L. But barrels can be moved more easily, stored anywhere, and don't turn beer into vinegar. I also feel that for extended hunting trips or general expeditions, a barrel of beer tossed in the wagon is always handy to have.


Actually, that's 160L 8x8 filled with 2x2 items = a 4x4 grid of items, thus 16 buckets or 160L of filled buckets. However, a barrel's footprint is more compact than that of a cupboard. (And for the argument, a cupboard has a more compact footprint than a large chest someone mentioned somewhere.) I can't rightfully tell you how much more compact the barrel is and if it's enough to make up that 60% increase in storage.
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Re: Beer vs wine

Postby Kaze_no_Kamil » Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:03 am

The problem with compact barrel placement at the moment is that the current ender client replaces the alt click placement with alt highlight which I actually find a bit less useful than alt placement. It needed to be remapped to control click instead.

Also there is one item that actually requires beer to make and that is bierwurst. Unfortunate it has too many stuff that needs to be combined compared to its FEP counterpart, strength cheese and bakery goods respectively.
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