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N00b asking N00b questions

Postby Gallows » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:30 am

Any tips for a newbie?

I was going for melee combat, but I can't do anything yet, I suck at mining, my village is just a house with no metal, and I lack LP.

Any tips or anything I can kill? I do not understand the combat system at all yet and have no one to trade with.

My stats are terrible. 39 str and 23 cons with 30 melee combat and 10 unarmed.

I use a stone axe, and I have all combat skills *minus rage and murder

Oh. No sling leather or any ranged things
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:02 am

Go hunting bears and boars. Deer will be tough but doable.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16722

Generally find safe water shallows, call down the thunder until you have 24 "gold coins" which are initiative. You'll need this to use moves, special moves, and attacks. Now use the guide to safely use Opportunity Knocks 4x on the animal. When you see the animal attempt to move towards you, this is the twitch -- only use moves after it twitches. After that Chop! it. Check the top right corner to see if its sword has changed to an olive branch. If it has, use Charge! instead of Call down the thunder and repeat the initial steps until it's dead. If it's still a sword then continue to use Call down the thunder and repeat.

For deer you'll need to be a bit crafty. Generally use the steps above and get it into peaceful mode then Charge! it and use Side Step 4 times. This will get you to 5 combat advantage, including the chop from earlier. Now save up 40 initiative, opportunity knocks 4 times, chop, knock, chop, knock, chop. It will be dead.

These are basic hunting tips for now so you can get on your feat and experiment with the combat system until you're comfortable with it.
These are not optimal but they're simple and safe. Until you're comfortable and confident don't try to get fancy.

Animals can't walk on water shallows so they're a great place to fall back to in emergencies.

PS: Teddy Bears make great curiosities.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby Gallows » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:08 am

Bears and Boars which can kill me in one attack? Really?
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:15 am

Yes really. Bears are a bit easier if not safer during all of this because they give you a warning shot. They'll charge initiative before attacking you so you're allowed to make a mistake or two. Any more than that and they'll tear you apart.

Once you get some leather armor you can actually take quite a beating from animals.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby Gallows » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:17 am

Oh. How long does it take for leeches to heal HHP? I got raided a few hours before this post when I lost all my village allies and lost my bronze.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:19 am

q10 leeches have a chance to heal 1 hhp every so often. I don't remember exactly how many seconds but it's pretty consistent. Probably ~2 hhp a minute per leech?
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby Gallows » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:21 am

Any tips on mining? There are like 20 villages around mine all dead and looted.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby BruThoL » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:43 am

No doubt XKnight hunting guide is a great one.
But imo, first you need to master the basics. Read this : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6518.

Also, I'd recommend to raise unarmed first.
uac affect the weight of most of your Maneuvers
So it's generally better to raise it first (in fact the most you have in unarmed, the more you are tough, and strong using unarmed attacks), while melee combat nearly only affect attack (it's also used as weight for the maneuver "shield").

First, train on ants.
Learn about maneuvers, moves, and attacks.
Try to setup some efficients combos, ...

Then go on fox (Id recommend 50 uac for a beginner).

With the hunting guide, you'll surely learn to hunt efficiently, and kill bears with 10 uac, but you'll not learn to fight.

Point 2.
Don't have 50 str and 20 cons.
When you raise your attributes by eating there is a limit.
Each time you eat different food for a given bar, it lower the limit.
The base limit is your higher attribute (base attribute, without the bonus - mouseover on value to see base attribute).
Easy to understand that raising only 2 attributes will make raising others painful later... (my english shouldn't be easy to understand here though xD)

3.
Man, forget those stupid leeches. It's a loss of time, and of energy.
Find some clovers : http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Clover
You just need to have per * explo to 130+ to start seeing some. (though explo is very useful for finding good curios)
Then feed it to a muflon, shear wool, and make a gauze...


4.
Before using metal for armors and weapons, i'd recommand use leather and fists.
You're trying to go to fast imo, you may just miss some important faces of the game.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby DDDsDD999 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:04 am

TeckXKnight wrote:q10 leeches have a chance to heal 1 hhp every so often. I don't remember exactly how many seconds but it's pretty consistent. Probably ~2 hhp a minute per leech?

Leeches were buffed and Q10 now does 3. (HHP too, yes, not just referring to SHP)

Also, on mining. There's a couple different ways you can do this. You can raise yoru PER and exploration a lot and try to find rustroot, which IIRC reguires 5000 PER*EXP. You make a pot, and grab some water, and craft rustroot extract. You reguire prospecting to do this. If you have the skill, you can click, adventure, prospect. You might get a tracking pie slice, or some box saying some metal below, or nothing. You follow the pie slice if you got that, and it will lead you to a metal node, prospect every minute or so, and eventually you should find it. Once you get the "___ is below", you can build a minehole, which when finished will take you to L1, which is shared with caves. You can build a minehole in L1, to go to L2, which has no caves. And follow suit til L5, which is the maximum. In the underground. Rustroot extract quality matters.

I advise for newbies, to grab a stone axe of the highest quality you can get, and mining caves. You must find a cave hole, and every I'd say 50 or so tiles, you mine into the cavern walls. It will drop stone on the ground, which indicates there is no metal, or give you ore in your inventory. This might take a couple caves. To smelt the ore, and determine what kind it is, you build a smelter with 45 bricks, fill it with ore, put one charcoal in, and wait for 15 minutes, then light. This where your industry/nature slider comes in. I advise you to look for ore, but don't mine it til your full industry, as the higher your industry is, the higher chance of getting metal from ore you mined is.

There are a couple types of metal:
Copper: Found on any layer, a soft metal, which can be combined with tin, to make bronze, which is very useful if you don't have iron.
Tin: Found on any layer, a soft metal, which can be combined with copper, to make bronze, which is very useful if you don't have iron.
Cast Iron: Found on any layer. This is the most useful, most likely. It is what iron ore is smelted into, slighty useless at this point, but it's hard, so it can be used for more than copper and tin.
Wrought Iron: When you procsess Cast iron in a finery forge, it creates this. This is less useful than bronze, as the armor and weapons it makes aren't as great.
Steel: This is made from procsessing wrought iron in a steel crubicle, which takes 56 hours to make, and it must be fueled a lot.
Silver: Found on layers below L1. Makes jewlery.
Gold: Found on layers below L2. This is VERY rare. Don't tell anyone you have this if you find it. They will raid you. They will. Makes extremely useful Dragon Helmets, Ring of brodgars which increase learning rate, and thanes, which give combat stats, and more.

Supports are made from 20 pieces of wood, and 2 nuggets of any metal. I advise digging every other tile if you have ore in them, to make some metal. You can't dig farther than 1 tile out, without building this, it will hurt and possibly kill you. The radius it covers is shown when you build one. There is also snake mining, but you reguire a support to start it out.

The difference between each layer, is that quality minimum is changed. L1 gives Q10 at minimum, L2 gives Q20 at minimum, L3 Gives Q30 at minimum, all the way to L5. L1 is the only one with caves. If you decide to build a minehole inside your walls, build a wall around the entrance first. People can dig to your hole, and get out of it and raid you. Layers are the exact size of the world, just think of it as copy below it, just with mining terrain.

There's probablly a bunch I'm missing though.
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Re: N00b asking N00b questions

Postby Gallows » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:53 am

Once again, I'm a n00b that just got raided.

I have no kiln, no animals, no pots, cannot build a minehole (leech from a dead village) have no smelter nor bricks, I have some stats in the rest, but only like 5-10 over the default, I have no leather either.

Only guy in my village who knew what he was doing got killed off during the raid along with everyone else.
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