1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:13 pm

If ranger's bow IEMM is raised this wouldn't be a problem anymore, and wooden bow's damage raised.

As it stands if you put 100 points in Marksmanship you can take on every animal with a good sling with no problem, as opposed to Melee that takes a heftier investment to get anywhere. If I had to choose where to put 100 points I'd go with MM for hunting, if I had to choose 300 I'd go with Melee though.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby Oblivior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:32 pm

burgingham wrote:
Oblivior wrote:I lack to understand why it has to be such a pain to use melee when i can Ko hit it in 2 sling hit's.
Melee was suppose to make things easyer not harder maybe i'm doing it wrong but if i time it it takes +- 10 seconds to kill a boar with ranged.
And about a minute or even more to kill it with melee.


Where did you get this from? The new combat system encourages hunting with bows and slings, because it just makes more sense than to face a fucking bear 1on1. Still melee exceeds mm at some point, which might not be what the devs had in mind.

I like MM and i have a good sling that supports that 275Q but i'm sick of bears running away and losing heaps of LP this way il give it a try with valorious strike. Sting doesn't seem to get them defence down of a lvl 10 only 35% of it.

If i could do it all over again id put all those waisted points into MM since i can tank those hits whitout getting hurth and everything dies whitin 3 hits if i don't miss.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby Windforce » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:53 pm

I've had no problems killing a X bear at range getting full LP.

I either 1shot it with my Rng bow or 4shot it with my sling (not from a boat too mind you lol).

I never really grasp the Melee combat in this game and I have always prefered range combat even before HnH.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby burgingham » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:04 pm

Oblivior wrote:like MM and i have a good sling that supports that 275Q but i'm sick of bears running away and losing heaps of LP this way


You are aware that bears are still bugged and will return to you if you get out of the boat and just wait?
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby DatOneGuy » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:21 pm

If you have the defense letting the bear do some moves on you before attacking it is a good way to not have it run too far.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby Oblivior » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:21 pm

burgingham wrote:
Oblivior wrote:like MM and i have a good sling that supports that 275Q but i'm sick of bears running away and losing heaps of LP this way


You are aware that bears are still bugged and will return to you if you get out of the boat and just wait?

I tried that it doesn't come back , maybe i can make a video to show you guys.
Even when the bear attacks me and can reach me it still runs away after the second sometimes 3th hit.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby Windforce » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:24 pm

What is your MM?

I can shoot a bear running away at full speed and kill it.
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby rye130 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:08 pm

Level 10 bears have a defensive weight of around 210 (worked-backwards to find it and did multiple tests of it).

A few months back loftar gave us some formulas about melee combat. They are to calculate maximum damage (Base damage(sqrt(sqrt(quality*str)/10))) and how to calculate defense consumed by an attack (he gave us the formula AW/BW/2, (AW=Attack weight and BW=Maneuver's weight)
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby Oblivior » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:00 am

Lol so this is what a found out, Sting doesnt do shit barely damaged the defence.

I walk up to the bear get 6 IP use valorious strike bam dead :lol:
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Re: 1 Hit bear w/o breaking defence?

Postby SinJin » Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:47 am

dra6o0n wrote:
You'd need like a super ranger bow of Q500 or something that does 3000 damage or more.




THIS :!:


Only if you plan on blowing apart the Bear and nuking half of the forest.
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