Making Steel

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Re: Making Steel

Postby Thijssnl » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:42 pm

sabinati wrote:do you have anything to back this up because you're fucking wrong, shitface


So, sabinati, had a bad weekend? :/
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Re: Making Steel

Postby DatOneGuy » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:46 pm

sabinati wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:EVERY tick matters. People who can't keep it up tend to last tick only. I'm not sure if last tick counts for more but if you do it every tick versus doing it only last tick, you WILL notice a difference.


do you have anything to back this up because you're fucking wrong, shitface

Potjeh wrote:Didn't Loftar himself say that only the last tick matters?


yea

Oh wow, that's not hostile at all. u mad?

Yes, ingame testing proves this.

You should really test something before shooting it down Mr.Derpus.
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Re: Making Steel

Postby Potjeh » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:04 pm

I made steel recently. I filled the crucibles full, and only refilled them when they were almost out, but I did time it right so they were at 100% temp q on the last tick. The steel turned out as good as could be expected, taking into account wrought, crucible and branch quality (I tested if branch and coal q matter while I was at it, and only branch q does).
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Re: Making Steel

Postby DatOneGuy » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:24 pm

Yes, loftar stated that coal q doesn't matter, and it was tested as well.

Crucible quality is fucked up, he mentioned that.

Anyways, you'd have to test it by trying to keep it close to 100% or at least making sure it doesn't go under/over a certain point, and then comparing it to one that you keep full and only finish last tick at 100%.
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Re: Making Steel

Postby Potjeh » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:32 pm

Are you suggesting that it's possible to push the steel *beyond* the quality of wrought, crucible and branches? Because the steel I got was roughly the average of those. I didn't bother to do proper math, but it looks like it's around that value. Since my crucible was at really crappy temp q most of the time, I should've gotten crap steel, right? Oh, and one of my crucibles ended the process with two extra branches in it, and the steel was like 20q points worse, so if all ticks do matter the last one matters a LOT more, since that crucible was at the same temp q as the others throughout the process (I accidentally added two branches too many at the end).
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Re: Making Steel

Postby sabinati » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:24 pm

DatOneGuy wrote:
sabinati wrote:
DatOneGuy wrote:EVERY tick matters. People who can't keep it up tend to last tick only. I'm not sure if last tick counts for more but if you do it every tick versus doing it only last tick, you WILL notice a difference.


do you have anything to back this up because you're fucking wrong, shitface

Potjeh wrote:Didn't Loftar himself say that only the last tick matters?


yea

Oh wow, that's not hostile at all. u mad?

Yes, ingame testing proves this.

You should really test something before shooting it down Mr.Derpus.


you honestly think i haven't tested this shit? we tested crap like this before you even heard of this game.
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Re: Making Steel

Postby Oddity » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:30 pm

Blacktooth told me that jorb said only the last tick matters, but I haven't found the post where jorb said this.
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Re: Making Steel

Postby Dusk » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:42 am

After a little searching
jorb wrote:It has been a pet peeve of loftar's, yes. I haven't bothered enough to challenge him on it, but good gameplay it is not. :)

Also, IIRC, it's only the last tick of the oven that matters anyway :P (Though I could be wrong on that)


By ovens he means steel crucibles, I think.

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Re: Making Steel

Postby loftar » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:34 am

To clear up the confusion about whether only the last tick counts or not: Due to a bug in the steel crucibles, only those ticks that have occurred after the map they were on was last unloaded count.
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Re: Making Steel

Postby vasjm88 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:17 am

Now my crucibles have n temp at all, is this due to the server crash? I didn't think this warranted its own thread.
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