How is the Q of a dragon helm determined?

[GreenScape]

It's probably (don't quote me on exacts until you test it)

(bronze Q * steel Q * anvil Q * hammerQ) ^ (1/4)

wrong. seems like it's [((bronze Q + steel Q)/2) * 3 + anvil Q + hammerQ] / 5

Nigga you trollin'?

wha? i'v just finished experiment. u know, for armour and swords the output q = (metalQ * 3 + anvilQ + hammerQ) / 5

seems like i'ts same for Dragon. i can be wrong with (bronze Q + steel Q)/2 cause both was equal but about other stuff i'm fucking 100% sure

[Oddity]

Smithed items are 50% average ql of materials, 25% anvil ql and 25% hammer ql

[GreenScape]

well, tell what u want to tell, Loftar knows better than any of us

[Oddity]

well, tell what u want to tell, Loftar knows better than any of us

[18:39:40] <Oddity> loftar, can you tell me how anvil ql, smithy's hammer ql, Smithing and str all factor into smithing something like a Bronze Plate?
[18:40:28] <loftar> Umm... IIRC, the material makes for 50% of the quality, the anvil and hammer for 25% each, and that result is softcapped by sqrt(str*smithing).

(several months old IRC logs)

[DatOneGuy]

However I will state that loftar sometimes makes exceptions and forgets them, but it's pretty rare.

[Oddity]

Yes.

[rye130]

Yeah loftar has given wrong formula's before.

[GreenScape]

okay guys, what q will be for steel plate due to your formula, if i'm using 6 q102 steel bars with q130 hammer and q115 anvil?

[Potjeh]

Should be 112.

[GreenScape]

no - 110 (smithing > 150, str >> 150).

same thing for q71 bars - i'v got q91. abesolutely fits the formula: q = (metalQ * 3 + anvilQ + hammerQ) / 5

and i'v made a fucking tons of experiments for bronze gear berofe. above formula always perfectly worked.