Stealth, wat be?

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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby Barhandar » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:39 am

novaalpha wrote:When you track someone there appears a dark-red "direction arrow" on a light-red circular background.

I was talking about certain scents of a certain person in W3 who was tracked by a ranger with 300 perc*100 exp and dark-red directional arrow was 360 degrees wide.

Other way around, light-red arrow, dark-red background.

Doesn't this means that the ranger is the perpetrator?
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby novaalpha » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:58 am

Barhandar wrote:Doesn't this means that the ranger is the perpetrator?

No, it doesnt. And by light-dark I mean bright and dull.
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby burgingham » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:19 am

Jackwolf wrote:Not many people who frequent the forums know the in depth properties of the Stealth skill.

The wiki is someone correct on its way of being "useless", but that is outdated with the removal of world four. Back then -everyone- had higher perception and exploration, since it helped with foraging and for increasing your minimum damage for ranged combat. But now with the new Curio system Intelligence has a good use, therefore increasing the amounts of intelligence grinding people do and in turn the likely hood of new Thief players to emerge.

You are correct, however. It's a Stealth*Int vs Expl*Perc. -But-, like with foraging, the numbers vary somewhat up or down. You basically "roll" to see if you see this scent or that scent, similar to how you can only see some spindly taproot at 1 but all of them at 4.

In all, Stealth makes it easier for someone to get away with Trespassing, Theft, Vandalism, and sometimes Murder.


Now that I think about it, there is some form of "cheating" for people with claims. Some sort of feed you can subscribe your email to for your account that automatically tells you when someone has left any form of scent on your claim, no matter what your Perc*Expl numbers are or what their Int*Stlh is. Which is pretty bullshit in my opinion, but alas.


So much wrong with this post.
First of all XMPP notifications have been disabled, so people won't get notified about trespassing anymore.
Second, Exp*Pec is more useful than ever. Everyone has it at decent values, because the best curiosities come from foraging. Doesn't mean people don't go for stealth anymore, I have hunted quite few people this world already with high stealth values.
Third, what Novaalpha says is pretty much correct. You always have a minimum chance of spotting a scent, so just enter and leave a house a couple of (thousand) times and you will find the scents. The pie chart is a whole other story though, because as he said in a worst case scenario you will get a 360° radius "pointing at" the criminal.
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby cloakblade » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:20 am

burgingham wrote:Third, what Novaalpha says is pretty much correct. You always have a minimum chance of spotting a scent, so just enter and leave a house a couple of (thousand) times and you will find the scents.

So you can roll a critical on a spot check that kind of sucks. Has there been a good reason for this being the case or is it just how it is?
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby Girlinhat » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Do stealth rolls work like animal spawns? As in, does the person need to wait 15 minutes for the scent to de-spawn and re-spawn, or can they just spam doors?
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby TeckXKnight » Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:16 pm

Girlinhat wrote:Do stealth rolls work like animal spawns? As in, does the person need to wait 15 minutes for the scent to de-spawn and re-spawn, or can they just spam doors?

Spam doors. If your per*exp is that much lower than their int*stealth then the scents won't be very useful anyway.
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby slipper » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:32 pm

Jackwolf wrote:Now that I think about it, there is some form of "cheating" for people with claims. Some sort of feed you can subscribe your email to for your account that automatically tells you when someone has left any form of scent on your claim, no matter what your Perc*Expl numbers are or what their Int*Stlh is. Which is pretty bullshit in my opinion, but alas.

I think that it was removed.
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Re: Stealth, wat be?

Postby Jackwolf » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:56 pm

I never said anything about Expl*Perc being worthless now, far from it. I merely stated that more people were likely to pick up Stealth given that Intelligence has another reason to be boosted.

I didn't know about the notification being disabled, considering I never used them. My apologies.

Also, Nova should be more in depth in his posts so one doesn't assume the wrong about him. ;) Sorry for not having heard your story before.
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