Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Valten21 » Tue May 24, 2011 12:54 pm

Swimming drains stamina fairly quick too!
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Sevenless » Tue May 24, 2011 4:19 pm

Sweet and simple opinion

Although there is more FEP gain, I believe the time spent could earn more FEP's hunting than you save with the meat. The only exception to this rule is for miners who are being handed food by a village. In that case ask for the roasted meat if you can.

The explanation

Although Teckx's pepper is a good theory for roasted meat, most people rarely use it on anything except cheese due to the difficulty of making it. I certainly wouldn't bother to make it for BBB's, but that's just me. What we're really missing here is quality, so I'll throw up the analysis for that using my meat Q. Do realize that pepper makes the BBB far better if you did want to use it for that, but I'll assume we're not using it for the purpose of this analysis.

Roasted Bear Meat: Q136
Roasted Boar Meat: Q56
Big Bear Banger: Q88 with bear intestines (for comparison, these should really go to cheese making though), Q80 with deer intestines

Actual FEP's given

FEP's from roasted meat
= 2 * ( 3.5 * sqrt(13.6) ) + 2 * ( 2 * sqrt(5.6) )
= 2 * 12.9 + 2 * 4.7
= 35.2

FEP's from BBB (deer guts)
= 10 * sqrt(8.0)
= 28.2

Hunger Per FEP comparison

Roasted meat gives 35.2 FEP's but costs 160 hunger units. That's 4.55 hunger units per FEP

BBB's give 28.2 FEP's but cost 100 hunger units. This one is 3.55 hunger units per FEP

Efficiency = 4.55 / 3.55 = 1.28

Roasted meat requires 28% more hunger drain per FEP eaten

Analysis

BBB's are less efficient FEP wise, but there's a balance of time inputs compared to outputs. If you're a miner with free access to a table and the food is just being handed to you, yes, ask for the roasted meat. But roasted meat actually takes ~x4 as long to cook because you're processing 4 items on the fire instead of 1 item on the grinder. For a Do It Yourself style player, you could probably just go and hunt more boar and bring in FEP's that way for the amount of time it would take to cook and drain the stamina in question.

Also note that the quality of your grinder will make a big difference here. Higher quality grinders make the sausages closer and closer to being equal with roast meat. A very low Q grinder will make sausages less efficient.
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby SpineApple » Tue May 24, 2011 4:50 pm

Sevenless wrote: For a Do It Yourself style player, you could probably just go and hunt more boar and bring in FEP's that way for the amount of time it would take to cook and drain the stamina in question.

Also note that the quality of your grinder will make a big difference here. Higher quality grinders make the sausages closer and closer to being equal with roast meat. A very low Q grinder will make sausages less efficient.


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Doesn't this just mean only hermits would find high Q meat grinders that essential though?
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Sevenless » Tue May 24, 2011 5:02 pm

SpineApple wrote:
Sevenless wrote: For a Do It Yourself style player, you could probably just go and hunt more boar and bring in FEP's that way for the amount of time it would take to cook and drain the stamina in question.

Also note that the quality of your grinder will make a big difference here. Higher quality grinders make the sausages closer and closer to being equal with roast meat. A very low Q grinder will make sausages less efficient.


Ty for mathcrafting.

Doesn't this just mean only hermits would find high Q meat grinders that essential though?


Nope. Delicious Deer Dogs give the best AGI in the game (I argue the AGI cheese isn't as good merely because you'd need to make less MBC for it), and roasted deer meat gives PER. Wonderful Wilderness Wurst gives Psyche, something that can't be gotten from any meat.

Honestly the only case where meat compared to sausage is a viable argument is over the STR sausages.
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby sabinati » Tue May 24, 2011 5:50 pm

you should be eating sausages and roast meat. not one or the other... derp.
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Windforce » Tue May 24, 2011 5:51 pm

Even when I go mining I always prefer to bring BBB rather than roasted meat. Since it takes up less space than 4 pieces of meat.
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby MagicManICT » Tue May 24, 2011 6:00 pm

sabinati wrote:you should be eating sausages and roast meat. not one or the other... derp.


This.

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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Sevenless » Tue May 24, 2011 6:56 pm

sabinati wrote:you should be eating sausages and roast meat. not one or the other... derp.


I understand what you're getting at, but when you've got 200 FEPs to fill you can eat anything small FEP wise for variety bonus. But you eat bulk food for the majority of your FEPs. We're discussing where those should ideally come from.

But you do get a point for catching my lack of explaining that :P
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Potjeh » Tue May 24, 2011 9:02 pm

Uhm, no, world 3 I had like 500 top stat and I still almost never ate two of the same food in one bar.
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Re: Roasting meat vs sausage (BBB).

Postby Sevenless » Wed May 25, 2011 12:05 am

Potjeh wrote:Uhm, no, world 3 I had like 500 top stat and I still almost never ate two of the same food in one bar.


A lot of people don't like doing it that way *shrugs*
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