Should I feel bad?

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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby defiler86 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:43 pm

I feel bad to do such things, and recently, me and my groups camp has be targeted of thefts of late. Stealing makes me no better than the thieves that targeted us. If the need arises, I often take what is necessary, and then replace it whenever I can. Only time it occurred when the thieves stolen my bone saw, and burrowed some bone to make a new one.

As for abandon items and settlements (found a cabin with a corpse in it one time) I took whatever I could use. But it felt that someone else got the good stuff. :\
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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:00 pm

I've always taken up the policy of swaps early in the game. If I have wet rabbit hides, I'll swap them into someone's drying rack if it has dry hides. (They only take 8 hours and there's a fair chance they'll be dry by the time the player logs back in again.) If I harvest plants, I replant them, etc.

But...

Tonkyhonk wrote:dont do it if you feel bad as you say.
do it if you feel good for your game play and expect others do the same to you.


Basically, stick to your morals. Also remember the golden rule, whichever version of it you may subscribe to.
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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby ImAwesome » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:30 pm

alot of you mentioned getting yeomanry, he didn't say unowned he said unprotected(as in no palisades yet)

in a case like that you could easilly leave a runestone for the person saying you saw their place and noticed whatever items you're interested in. they may be able to tell you where they got the items you never saw before to help you out and you may even be able to help them out with similar information...

as someone with yeomanry and wood fences who has recently been robbed I have to post objecting to the way you do things...though when I was robbed no food was taken, just everything from my curiosity cupboard and all the ropes/bone glue/leather I was saving up to make my palisades(guess so they wouldn't have to worry about getting in when they came back), and for some reason a boat

edit: just logged in they came back and stole my bed while I was sleeping in it too :evil:
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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:01 pm

ImAwesome wrote:alot of you mentioned getting yeomanry, he didn't say unowned he said unprotected(as in no palisades yet)


"Protection" has a lot of meaning to it. Just being on a claim gives some level of protection because it requires anyone looking to do ill to have purchased the black skills that start at 20k LP and go up, up, up. (Rage 30k, Trespassing 20k, Theft 40k, Vandalism 50k, Murder 100k.) It keeps out the newbies, but vets that are out to cause problems are just going to scoff at pretty much anything short of a brick wall.

ImAwesome wrote:as someone with yeomanry and wood fences who has recently been robbed I have to post objecting to the way you do things...though when I was robbed no food was taken, just everything from my curiosity cupboard and all the ropes/bone glue/leather I was saving up to make my palisades(guess so they wouldn't have to worry about getting in when they came back), and for some reason a boat


Anything truly valuable shouldn't be left laying in a cupboard for someone to break in and steal, with or without walls. Log out with it in your inventory. Once you get a palisade up, you're safer, but odds are there is someone in the general area with enough strength to break a hole in your wall without a ram. Thus the rule will still apply. Heck, even a roundpole fence without a gate increases your protection because it bumps the cost of breaking in from trespassing to vandalism (an extra 90k in skills). This only works as long as all parts of the fence are on claimed ground, though.

ImAwesome wrote:in a case like that you could easilly leave a runestone for the person saying you saw their place and noticed whatever items you're interested in. they may be able to tell you where they got the items you never saw before to help you out and you may even be able to help them out with similar information...


Just a heads up: Never, ever, ever leave a runestone with in-game contact information. Always leave a forum name for a personal message or an email address! A misused hearth secret can cause all kinds of grief. Besides, trying to catch a neighbor online could be as bad as trying to catch a fly with chopsticks.

ImAwesome wrote:edit: just logged in they came back and stole my bed while I was sleeping in it too :evil:


Well, I got news for you. They didn't steal it. They broke it. You can't steal a bed with someone sleeping in it. Just be glad they didn't really grief you bad or you'd be stuck logging back in in the wilderness. Since you have a claim, they left scents. Get a post up in the Inn or In Congress. There might be a friendly ranger in your area that will come and hunt them down. This is the protection that a claim provides: the threat of death for various deeds. They are either noobs or figured you were new enough that you won't be able to serve retribution. (There can be the case where the cost of retribution against the perpetrator is going to be too high. It'll be up to you to decide once they're tracked down.)
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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby deadlyhabit » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:20 pm

pretzelguy1 wrote:Ive stolen shoes, food leather straps and a few noob items I snatched because I ahd never seen them before.


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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby borka » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:38 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:dont do it if you feel bad as you say.
do it if you feel good for your game play and expect others do the same to you.


This

Well said Tonky - again :)
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Re: Should I feel bad?

Postby M_So » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:18 am

Swarm wrote:
M_So wrote:
Swarm wrote:It's easier to collect dragonflies from newbie settlements then it is to catch them in the swamplands.

dude come back to our village, it is boring as shit on a stick in here and boogie has not been on for weeks. D: my melee is 90 lets go kill things. :D


What about Manson? :o
Did he really quit for good?

I have not seen him since you ate his ant. D:
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