Catching Eels and Sturgeon

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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Alamarian » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:49 pm

Potjeh wrote:One guy told me he snagged some sturgeons with a rock lobster, but I never managed to do the same.


I've caught both with a pinecone lure. I haven't caught one in a long time though.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby flaw » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:15 pm

Alamarian wrote:
Potjeh wrote:One guy told me he snagged some sturgeons with a rock lobster, but I never managed to do the same.


I've caught both with a pinecone lure. I haven't caught one in a long time though.


I've caught both with a rock lobster.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby minck1 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:25 pm

flaw wrote:I've caught both with a rock lobster.


I used both the wooden lure and the rock lobster when I caught them. Also, you can catch them during the day but the day must be during the new moon cycle.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby sabinati » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:48 pm

Potjeh wrote:I've never caught either of those, and I've done a LOT of fishing.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Cookie » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:48 pm

I've caught both eels and sturgeon frequently and in several different locations.

The first time I caught them was on a river, using a rock lobster. Subsequently I have caught them using pine cone plugs and wood fish. So far as I can tell the bait seems not to be a factor. I certainly use the cheapest stuff available since fishing is what I do with a new character while they are waiting for the wheat to come in and before they can kill boars/bears.

At a certain pool where I fish, for one H & H day I catch brill, then it shifts to perch and then later to the sturgeon and eels. The sturgeons and eels come at nearly the same time and in the same location and usually in the dark but near to dawn and dusk rather than midnight. These details may be idiosyncratic to the particular pool rather than to all spots. My experience indicates that a waxing moon closer to full is likely to be the best phase but is not a guarantee.

When I say deep water I mean either a river or the non-wadeable portion of a lake. I have never been able to actually get a line into the shallow water on the side of a river, only into the shallows beside a lake. I've caught eels and sturgeon only in deep water. A boat in the deep water of a lake is not a bad vantage to try from but if successful is hard to get back to when you need to empty your inventory.

Sometimes they are impossible to catch. If I am consistently pulling up other types of fish I try somewhere else, or some time else. When I do pull up a type of fish I want, I stay exactly where I am, even noting the spot where the line hits the water, until the fishing conditions change and I no longer am getting that type. In this way I stockpile cheap plaice, eels and sturgeons, which are the ones I usually want the most.

I catch q6 to around q15 sturgeon and eels before I switch to boar/bear and honey buns as my primary sources of str and agi. I've caught plenty of both in that range.

Fishing is something I do while multitasking, so I do a lot of it, leaving my character in the water fishing while I wander back and forth to the computer. This is especially true if I have started to pull up some type of fish I value but can't rely on finding. It's the same with hunting. The waits to find out if I can fire my missle yet or if I have caught something or not are so long that I find lots of three minute tasks I can do so that I can stick out the tedium until I am successful.

In my experience low q salmon is the one you rarely get and the most valuable one as a result. I would dearly love to find a good source of salmon. There is no easy way to get char food for a new character so that stat usually trails as bad or worse than psyche.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:56 pm

In my experience all the same tiles are the same. I compared my results to those of a guy in a whole different grid, and we got the same thing when we cast at the same time with the same lure in the same type of water.

Anyway, if you want salmon, try poppy wobbler. That thing catches salmon 3/4 of the time.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby minck1 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:03 pm

grapes > raisins > raisin bread is a replenishing supply of Cha food.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Cookie » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:13 pm

Off topic:

minck1 wrote:grapes > raisins > raisin bread is a replenishing supply of Cha food.


The problem with char is getting any before you have found grapes and have bought winemaking, or have built up your hunting skills to be able to tackle sheep. It's just a noobie issue. If I stick it out with a character I can usually catch up pretty quicky but it can still take a couple of weeks if there are no wild grapes in the area and I've landed in deep Mordor.

Potjeh: Thank you. Several sessions with a poppy wobbler is going be somewhere in my very near future. I'm also curious to see if I can get identical results with a fishing partner a few steps away. That's another interesting experiment I haven't tried. My fishing pools are normally selected due to their proximity to a hearth fire on the river bank to provide the light for night time fishing and only secondarily due to what I pull up from them.
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:30 pm

I have filled a log of sorts with fish/lure combos I pulled off. It's not exactly full-proof, as it doesn't take moon phases into account and some people claim that equipment quality can change the type of your catch (a hypothesis I disagree with), but it's a good starting place:
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Re: Catching Eels and Sturgeon

Postby Avu » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:39 pm

It's not just a hypothesis we tested it.
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