Is there a way to determine distances? (oh god i'm so lost)

[DatOneGuy]

Sounds borderline exploity, not to mention tedious; the idea of a hunter rushing to surround his quarry with incomplete campfires before it wanders off is just goofy, but what the hey, when in Rome. It sounds like I've got a LOT of lp to be earning before I can really become a proper hunter, and I won't be gaining lp by hunting just yet, as I can only make q6 slings with my 5 points in survival. Which brings me to a new question...

What are the sane, simple ways for early players to earn enough lp to become productive? I've gone over the lp section of the getting started wiki page, and it seems that the BAD ways are the ones my party members are using to push their skills up into those glorious double-digits while I flounder about making campfires and cooking bunnies. I made at least a couple thousand lp on my grand journey by making boats (more likely, the lp gained from felling and processing all them trees), but that seems just wasteful as the local tree population diminishes.

It's only used for super newbie characters so he doesn't keep losing Aim each time he gets hit.



Early characters? There are the unfriendly ways to do it... cutting trees and turning them into wooden cutlery/goblets/buckets.

There's also plowing(metal plow) for REALLY early characters, paving roads for productive use, building houses, fishing is okay...

Pretty much anything will give you LP, just find something you like and stick to it until you got enough.

[Twerp]

Sounds like I'd be best off if I quit nosing around the wiki and the forums and actually played around with stuff, then. Thanks for the info and all!

[Totentag]

This may sound weird, but in my experience, it's less effective to actively look for LP then it is to try to become useful for whatever community you formed with your friends. Cooking, building fences, houses, paving, fishing, random other crafts that are actually needed. I helped my two mates build a Timber House and earned about 5000 LP from it, unintentionally.

Long story short, just try and do what you must to advance your little community, and you'll get what you need.

[Twerp]

This may sound weird, but in my experience, it's less effective to actively look for LP then it is to try to become useful for whatever community you formed with your friends. Cooking, building fences, houses, paving, fishing, random other crafts that are actually needed. I helped my two mates build a Timber House and earned about 5000 LP from it, unintentionally.

Long story short, just try and do what you must to advance your little community, and you'll get what you need.

That's pretty much what I've had to do so far; food's been so tight I left the settlement entirely, going upriver several miles until I found a broadleaf forest with apple trees and set up a cabin there. Probably should've scouted out before I put up a claim, as I found some minor settlements in the general area, but them's the breaks. Figure I'll trade with my buddies to get the materials I need to set up some kind of amateur forest restoration project for lp; hopefully having put up a runestone to that effect won't encourage people to clear-cut the area out of spite~

Which I guess leads to another quick question; do herbalist tables and treeplanter's pots need to be maintained, and does the latter get consumed on use?

EDIT: I lied, here's another question since this board doesn't need me dropping topics all over the place. What's an effective skill distribution for hunting without decent equipment? The best I can do for weapons is a stone axe and/or a sling, and armor is out of the question until at least leather can be acquired. Would melee combat be worth investing in with this gear, or should I wade in and try to punch out foxes by dropping points in unarmed combat? I'm still waffling on the utility of marksmanship, as well.

[martinuzz]

If your friends have wheat, and you don't mind farming;
the best way to gain LP would be to grow wheat, process the grain into flour, and make bread dough from that.

If you dislike farming however, cutting trees / building a house / pallisade would be a good way to get you enough LP to get started with hunting.
Get your marksman up to 20, indeed, and make as good a sling as you can.
Good targets for early hunting are mouflons and aurochsen. Their LP is not too high individually, but their numbers make up for that. You will need to fence them in though. If not, you will be raped by the group aggroing you.

[Twerp]

I don't mind farming, heck I'll need it for my plan to try my hand at forest restoration. Got a couple q1 and q2 flax seeds in exchange for about 40 pieces of sand.

Could you elaborate on how you effectively hunt with a sling? It sounds like you carry around a sling and a backpack full of sticks, and when you find an animal, you start building campfires (only putting in a single stick) around them and hoping they don't move before you finish? And once they're trapped, you go find a boulder to chip off some slingstones and pelt it to death? I just picked up valor, militia training, and brawling, assuming marksmanship was just for getting in a first hit before closing for combat. Would I be better off dumping lp into marksmanship instead?

[Twerp]

Well, I think I've got the hunting figured out. I found a fox, surrounded it entirely with 1-stick campfires, then slung away. Turned out to be a level X fox, which I assume is tougher than the average fox, as it took me about half an hour (still at 5 marksmanship, skills get expensive to level awful fast) and three slingstone restocking trips to down the furry bastard, but down he went for a nice 1040 lp. If only those horrible boars would sit still long enough for me to build them a pen, that I might taste vengeance for all the hhp they have taken.

[Totentag]

Since hunting has come into question here, I'd like to ask, was it a bad choice for me to learn Archery and build myself all of the items related to it? It seems pretty wretched when my quiver replaces my backpack and still only holds 4 arrows. Does this change with the marksmanship level? (I built it when it was still at one)

[Twerp]

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but from what I've read/heard (I found the wiki article on archery pretty confusing, but maybe I'm just dense), bows are pretty crap until your marksmanship and the quality of your bow and arrows are rather high. High by my confused newbie standards, mind you. Any of these being on the low end will drag down your overall effectiveness, so you might be better off with a sling and a backpack full of rocks. Assuming you are, in fact, new to this whole thing~

[Totentag]

Hah, I AM incredibly new. Maybe two weeks or so, not entirely sure. But, up to this point, I have yet to kill any wild animal besides a rabbit. =P I think it will be a while.