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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Duregar » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:51 am

syvelocin wrote:Do you sometimes fail at quelling? I did it twice more with that method and I'm still at 20.

No, you don't
Here's really useful video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0XX9m6T1WQ&feature=youtu.be
If you are taming first time I suggest you to watch it. It's good to see (and not only read) what you have to do.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby syvelocin » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:53 am

Duregar wrote:
syvelocin wrote:Do you sometimes fail at quelling? I did it twice more with that method and I'm still at 20.

No, you don't
Here's really useful video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0XX9m6T1WQ&feature=youtu.be
If you are taming first time I suggest you to watch it. It's good to see (and not only read) what you have to do.


It stayed at 20 for two turns then the next two turns it increased *shrug*

I watched that one already too :P That was one of the three. The wiki, one of the main forum posts on the subject, and a load of other forum research. I get really nervous in this game...

EDIT: And he's mine :D
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby syvelocin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:28 am

So what changes with taming boars? I know they can break signs and fences, so is there actually a way to tame them without being touched? And would you not be able to use the deaggro trick and have to actually wait for them to attack you again?
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:45 am

Just want to say: I've tamed dozens of animals, and I still screw it up on occasion. Helps to hotkey your tame commands.

For boars: It's the same, but make sure to wear at least leather armor (top and pants), and any other armor you can come up with, to help soak any hits that get through. If you can, use the shallow water on the shore of a lake as the buffer zone while you build IP and waiting for move cooldowns. Lacking that, I seriously recommend a minimum of 50 UA and be able to use any special moves to help regain advantage as boars have access to a 4 IP move to gain IP. Boars are usually quick to reaggro after getting tameness points, too, but they're known to take a while. (Never has seemed to be more than 3-5 minutes for me.)

edit: had a thought: is it possible to inline videos from youtube on a wiki page? I'm not sure I've seen it before and feeling too lazy to look right now. If nobody knows off the top of their head, don't look. I can do that myself. (Think it'd be nice to play Lusewing's video right on the page.) (Assuming it can probably be done by plugin if not available natively.)
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Neon14 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:46 am

MagicManICT wrote:Just want to say: I've tamed dozens of animals, and I still screw it up on occasion. Helps to hotkey your tame commands.

For boars: It's the same, but make sure to wear at least leather armor (top and pants), and any other armor you can come up with, to help soak any hits that get through. If you can, use the shallow water on the shore of a lake as the buffer zone while you build IP and waiting for move cooldowns. Lacking that, I seriously recommend a minimum of 50 UA and be able to use any special moves to help regain advantage as boars have access to a 4 IP move to gain IP. Boars are usually quick to reaggro after getting tameness points, too, but they're known to take a while. (Never has seemed to be more than 3-5 minutes for me.)

edit: had a thought: is it possible to inline videos from youtube on a wiki page? I'm not sure I've seen it before and feeling too lazy to look right now. If nobody knows off the top of their head, don't look. I can do that myself. (Think it'd be nice to play Lusewing's video right on the page.) (Assuming it can probably be done by plugin if not available natively.)


You can also hop out of a boat on one side with a boar aggro'd, wait for it to chase you that way, get in the boat again, and hop out on the side it ran from, it will then run at you, try to move your character into the river, (don't have swimming on!) and the boar should get stuck in the narrow shallow water of rivers, you can then build IP and run in to use skills, I recommend running in to use skills only when the boar flinches or as I like to call it 'barks' this should keep it from attacking you in the interval you go to use your skills.

I usually gain 20 IP via Call down the Thunder, sidestep until full advantage or so, sting like a bee, quell.

"If you're taming a Boar into a Pig, a coastline is best.
If you're taming an Auroch into a Cow, pen the target beast(s) individually with Fire signposts, and any others of the herd you don't want as a group.
If you're taming a Mouflon into a Sheep, pen the target beast(s) individually with Fire signposts, and any others of the herd you don't want as a group."

If you can manage what I stated first, yes, there's a way to tame a boar without being touched. It's sketchy, but that tricks even do-able with hunting bears, and sure works for taming boars too :D
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby syvelocin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 am

So water will more or less take the place of the diagonal sign post? So you'd move in after he twitches, hit him, and move back?

Is that 50 UA exclusively or instead of? It'll take me a bit, I haven't been investing in UA at all.

Oh, and what's the difference between using consume the flames and sting? I hear them both for taming but is there a difference between them?

I don't think I understand how to get him stuck though, is there a way to show it visually or something?
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Duregar » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:53 am

syvelocin wrote:Oh, and what's the difference between using consume the flames and sting? I hear them both for taming but is there a difference between them?

Consume the Flames
Conditions: None
Effect: Reduces battle intensity to zero. For each point of battle intensity consume, you lose SHP in amount equal to 1% of your max HP, and regain 1% of your stamina.

Sting Like a Bee
Conditions: Costs 6 Initiative
Effect: -8% defesce. Gives you 10% offense for each point of intensity, and then resets the intensity to 0.

Consume the Flames will hurt your SHP, Sting Like a Bee won't.
Consume the Flames can be used without additional initiative, Sting Like a Bee cannot (requires 6 IP).


Consume the Flames: can be used faster but hurts SHP
Sting Like a Bee: slower to use (requires to build additional IP) but does not hurt SHP

It's up to you decide which to use.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Neon14 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:17 am

syvelocin wrote:So water will more or less take the place of the diagonal sign post? So you'd move in after he twitches, hit him, and move back?

Is that 50 UA exclusively or instead of? It'll take me a bit, I haven't been investing in UA at all.

Oh, and what's the difference between using consume the flames and sting? I hear them both for taming but is there a difference between them?

I don't think I understand how to get him stuck though, is there a way to show it visually or something?


I've done it with little or no UA at all, and above me explains the difference, I prefer just using call down the thunder 2 more times and being able to pop in and sting like a bee no problem, no SHP hurt is good :)

If the server was up i'd make a video, i'll do it once the server is up, but the trick is just to...basically what you said, hide in the tile of the water and have him be in the tile diagonal to you, he won't be able to run around to the other tile and to you like he would with fences, or just break them. Once he twitches you hop out of the water, carefully, and STAY diagonal, and you'll be able to get in and do your move, pop back into water tile, rinse and repeat.

Only problem i've had with this is that he doesn't re-attack immediately, not even close, he runs away into the forest, wanders aimlessly, and then randomly charges after you, i'd recommend only getting into the boat after he re-attacks you, otherwise he might not at all, most times he just stays in the water, and then re-attacks, but if this does happen, hop into boat like I said once he re-attacks and stick him diagonal to you...again.

It's a little sketchy, but it's how I got my first pig, intuitively too!
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby RGavin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:45 pm

While wandering around I got a little message stating I was 'Entering Rivia'. Is that some kinda defined PvP fighting arena or something ? Just out of pure curiosity (and a fear of crossing paths with surly guys with swords.)
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:47 pm

That happens whenever you enter a village's territory.
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