What the hell with beehives ? Let's figure it out !

[Vroomfondle]

I find some of these facts not true, i have overlapped hives that completely overlap and produce high q wax but in larger numbers, however less often.

There are situations where this can effect the quality of wax you receive. If the hive with the best coverage of high quality crops is being sniped by other hives you would be losing out because of the averaging and reduced output.

Reducing overlap is beneficial all around though the effect on quality is usually indirect it still can have an effect.

[CWSPS]

I find some of these facts not true, i have overlapped hives that completely overlap and produce high q wax but in larger numbers, however less often.

There are situations where this can effect the quality of wax you receive. If the hive with the best coverage of high quality crops is being sniped by other hives you would be losing out because of the averaging and reduced output.

Reducing overlap is beneficial all around though the effect on quality is usually indirect it still can have an effect.

if im getting q50 wax i dont see why i shoulds top, but i do understand your point.

[Vroomfondle]

^ This does not contradict what he said. 2 beehives will "hit" twice as often (so larger numbers of wax overall), but will sometimes hit the same crop, so one beehive won't produce wax/honey (so, less often). That's what I understand from it.

Vroomfondle, thank you, that's pretty much what I figured out.
The only thing still obscure to me is why a freshly built hive gave me a q28 wax, when the ones I built in my "waxfarm" started by giving me a q10 wax although everything about them (crops, materials) was better.

It would be difficult to guess without more info. Are the crops in the waxfarm sitting not growing for longer? Do you know the hive qualities?

Also, does wax average with the honey already in the hive ? Or only wax with wax, and honey with honey ?

Hrmm this is something I have not tested fully. I have been assuming that wax and honey quality were directly related to each other. I always harvest wax and honey at the same time, so they are both the same quality. I don't know what happens when you stagger harvests.

[Vroomfondle]

I find some of these facts not true, i have overlapped hives that completely overlap and produce high q wax but in larger numbers, however less often.

There are situations where this can effect the quality of wax you receive. If the hive with the best coverage of high quality crops is being sniped by other hives you would be losing out because of the averaging and reduced output.

Reducing overlap is beneficial all around though the effect on quality is usually indirect it still can have an effect.

if im getting q50 wax i dont see why i shoulds top, but i do understand your point.

Yeah, no. A little overlapping is not going to be devastating and is usually inevitable. Maybe I should reword it to minimize overlapping.

[Cynry]

It would be difficult to guess without more info. Are the crops in the waxfarm sitting not growing for longer? Do you know the hive qualities?

Some of the crops may have not been harvested since I set it up, but I've been actively harvesting/planting in the area ever since the hive was built. Adding harvested and planted crops, I'd say over 50 actions were taken today.
Hive qualities, straw is q28, logs q15, boards q27. All the crops are q30-40. That's for the waxfarm.
The one that gave me the q28 wax has lesser materials, and by the time I got this wax, crops were ranging from 15 to 30.

The issue may be with the honey. As I don't need it much, I let it "rot" in the beehive. When servers are back up, I'll harvest everything, and come back here for results with the next production cycle. That may set up what average with what.

Damn it, q50-60 wax, me want so bad ^^

[Stormfeather]

I just want *some* wax! Grrr, my bees are slooow (probably need more crops, but yeesh, the ones I have take effort to keep going as it is.)

[Halbor]

how long does it take after building for beehives to start producing wax? i've had 3 0.1L harvests of honey out of mine, and some friends have had a couple as well, but no wax yet.

[mvgulik]

Do not overlap hive influence.

Depends on what your after and what your growing.
Beehives only produce X amount of grow-ticks in a Y amount of time. With fast growing cops inside the influence of a single beehive ... The overall (whole field) crops growed can/will be slower. (Or: the outer crops only start getting grow-hits after the inner crops are fully grown.)

I think you need to have honey still in it,

Think this is true. (Or, beehive will not produce (make new) wax unless there is a surplus* (overflowing) of honey in the beehive.)
* could be just having some honey stored in the beehive without it overflowing yet. (kinda hard to proof this by observation testing.)

[Stormfeather]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to be overflowing, since I've only been getting a bit of honey so far, but the only three pieces of wax I've gotten were from hives that I left honey sit in before collecting it. So there's that tiny bit of data, for what little it's worth. :p

[mvgulik]

I'm not getting what your trying to convey here.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to be overflowing,

the only three pieces of wax I've gotten were from hives that I left honey sit in before collecting it.

".. only .. wax .. were from hives that I left honey sit in before collecting it."