How to be a successful hermit

[LonerNoob]

In my experience it is a mistake to think you will learn more than living in a village, ofc depending on the village you are living in. Not every village has the same policies and in most villages not everything is done, we have to make it happen.
If you are lucky enough to get to live with friendly ppl, even having separate plots system, you will have a lot of ppl to ask to, you will see what they do, will be able to look around and will learn how they work out to get resources and better Q.
When I hermited I learned much more slow, ofc as I personally did whatever I was confident and was able to get some tips, that you dont if you dont do things by yrself, but the game is so complex that never one player can do it all, and less to get a competitive outcome, even being a no-lifer.
As a hermit you have to compit with the sinergy of a bunch of ppl, and in most towns there are used bots.

True, some villages do make you learn faster than being by yourself. My main issue is the fact that some villages would want me to be experienced/to help more often than I can. So in the end it comes to having a "neighbourhood" rather than a "village".

I'm not too helpful in villages, due to not playing enough/being a newbie, so I just figured it's easier to have my own place and learn slower than to adapt to other peoples' rules and learn faster.

I don't want to be known as a leecher, either. Which would happen if I were to join a village that demands more activity than I can supply, and I wasn't too helpful because of that.

Of course, I'd love to join a village if they're friendly, don't require me to play more than I can play, and have a true community. But I can't seem to find any, so I hermit.

By true community I mean they really help eachother both with text and actions. I've seen some villages that are friendly, help with text, and don't require me to be more active than I can be, but in the end I felt left out, since I would never, ever, see them ingame other than on the chat. :/

I've also made an attempt to make one, but I can't seem to be around at the same time as other people in that place, so it didn't work out too well either ^^'.

So I hermit, until maybe someone makes a true community ingame

[MagicManICT]

The hardest thing I've found about trying to stay dedicated to the game is that quality grind. You thought the level and gear grind in a Korean MMO was repetitive and boring....

Once you've figured out how to do it all--mine for gold, produce silk, make cheeses, sausages, and anything else to easily grind up stats--the only thing left is quality. Quality grinding is boring as fuck, but it's the one thing you need to log in every day for. (We won't mention things like steel production that requires you to log in twice at day, at least, to keep crucibles going. Best be safe and make it 3-4 times a day.)

To be honest, forage and trade is best. Keep some crops around to make curios and food with, go do some mining or hunting. Just don't try to do it all or do the quality grind if you don't want to. Palisades are horrid, and brick walls are worse. If I could, I'd never build either. I keep a newb around without them and hardly get messed with because there's nothing to take, and if I do get stolen from, I figure out how far away they are and if they're likely to show back up. It's amazing how nice people are if they don't consider you a threat.

The one thing I hate as a hermit: feeding the cows. Too many damn crops every day.

True, some villages do make you learn faster than being by yourself. My main issue is the fact that some villages would want me to be experienced/to help more often than I can. So in the end it comes to having a "neighbourhood" rather than a "village".

This is because so many things require that you have a minimum of stats to keep from ruining quality, and in Haven, quality is king. You can ruin six months of work if you harvest the top quality crops with a farming 1 newb alt.

[LonerNoob]

The hardest thing I've found about trying to stay dedicated to the game is that quality grind. You thought the level and gear grind in a Korean MMO was repetitive and boring....

Once you've figured out how to do it all--mine for gold, produce silk, make cheeses, sausages, and anything else to easily grind up stats--the only thing left is quality. Quality grinding is boring as fuck, but it's the one thing you need to log in every day for. (We won't mention things like steel production that requires you to log in twice at day, at least, to keep crucibles going. Best be safe and make it 3-4 times a day.)

To be honest, forage and trade is best. Keep some crops around to make curios and food with, go do some mining or hunting. Just don't try to do it all or do the quality grind if you don't want to. Palisades are horrid, and brick walls are worse. If I could, I'd never build either. I keep a newb around without them and hardly get messed with because there's nothing to take, and if I do get stolen from, I figure out how far away they are and if they're likely to show back up. It's amazing how nice people are if they don't consider you a threat.

The one thing I hate as a hermit: feeding the cows. Too many damn crops every day.

True, some villages do make you learn faster than being by yourself. My main issue is the fact that some villages would want me to be experienced/to help more often than I can. So in the end it comes to having a "neighbourhood" rather than a "village".

This is because so many things require that you have a minimum of stats to keep from ruining quality, and in Haven, quality is king. You can ruin six months of work if you harvest the top quality crops with a farming 1 newb alt.

I agree with everything you said there, specially with the quality issue. Then again, it's not like newbies must do quality related stuff. I'd become any role they want me to fulfill, so long as they don't expect me to be around more than my life allows me to.

In fact, people who are making walls, or want me to gather new resources(AKA hunt/forage/get wood) wouldn't care as much about the quality of the things I gather, as they would if I were to decide to work on their farm.

If I were to make a farm I'd make my own rather than ruin quality of others'. Then again I don't like farming as much because it sorta makes me want to become sedentary too early LOL.

Anyways, while the quality matters, and a lot, there are still ways to be helpful as a newbie. What matters is if they need someone who hunts/forages/chops wood/makes bricks, or if they just need help with the quality-heavy stuff like farming. And I'm guessing they need the latter, since I don't see many that don't mind letting newbies in.

[MagicManICT]

Hunting and foraging is usually one thing anyone can do (foraging not so much, but not hard to push survival to the 40-50 needed for all but the highest quality foraged goods).

I agree with everything you said there, specially with the quality issue. Then again, it's not like newbies must do quality related stuff. I'd become any role they want me to fulfill, so long as they don't expect me to be around more than my life allows me to.

That's part of finding the right village. It's like finding the perfect career. Anyone can take a job, but it takes time and dedication to find the right career. Same holds true for a village (or any other gaming group).