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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:41 pm

knightgabe13 wrote:You can kill your buddies without them actually dying via FHP. (fake hit points)
Also, armor will degrade.

My question: I keep dying, whats the fastest way to get LP with 1 everything? (not conecows)


You can cause damage to someone using weapons while sparring. Villages will try to get very low quality swords and such just for this reason.

With 10 Int and minimal LP, you can do a combination of: Dandelions, Cone Cows, all three Ants (soldier, queen, empress), primitive dolls (carpentry), and toy chariots (ceramics). There might be a couple others, but with no exploration or perception, you're not going to get too many. There's always Itsy Bitsy and her Web, but those take quite a bit of attention (6 and 10 respectively if I recall) and are slow to study.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby knightgabe13 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:38 pm

Okay. I'm in luck then, I got 3 itsy bitsies. Not the webs though.
Check out HavenTune! :D
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby cobaltjones » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:41 pm

Bark boats are another easy early curio.

Also dragonflies. Look for a small section of swamp (think only 50 tiles or so) and just right click the dragonfly and sit back and you bounce back and forth forever until catching it.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby ImAwesome » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:43 pm

though slow to study that 5k base lp on the web makes it well worth the 24 hour study time...and if you eat right you can cram a few other things in there with it.

bark boats are great, but if he keeps getting killed chances of him having boat building are low. cone cows and foragables are really the way to go early.

edit and don't forget ladybugs...and you might get lucky butchering a chicken and get a wishbone
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:08 am

cobaltjones wrote:Bark boats are another easy early curio.


Yeah, but I was listing things that need no or almost no LP investment to start. ;)
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby cobaltjones » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:11 am

Forgot they require boat building :shock:

Still, with a couple slider changes and a handful of discovery bonuses it's not that hard to get most basic skills.

Curious that require very little to no LP investment are very few and far between.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby ImAwesome » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:43 pm

I know quality matters, but would a good quality stone axe be a better choice than a low quality pickaxe for mining? or is the pickaxe always better?
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby cobaltjones » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:46 pm

As far as I know (I could be wrong, I don't mine much), quality of the item affects how quickly you are able to mine, and the actual item (axe/pick/sledge) determines the strength needed to mine.

So if you are able to mine an area with both a q60 stone axe or a q12 pickaxe, then the stone axe would be the better choice. (Again, I could be completely wrong here but I think that's how I remember it)

EDIT: Upon second thought, it might actually be the complete opposite of this (higher quality lets to mine harder walls, item makes it go faster). Sorry. I'm no help at all.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:18 pm

cobaltjones wrote:EDIT: Upon second thought, it might actually be the complete opposite of this (higher quality lets to mine harder walls, item makes it go faster)..


That's correct. A higher quality tool should be used if necessary for the hardness of the stone, but if you can, getting away with a pickaxe will decrease mine time.
Ex: Q10 stone axe vs Q10 pickaxe, use the pickaxe since it would mine faster.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:57 pm

Whether you can mine a tile or not compares the tile's hardness number to your mining ability. Hardness ranges from 10* level to ???. (I don't think anyone has provided any numbers on this.) Mining Ability is calculated as the geometric mean of your Strength and the tool quality you have equipped or Ability = sqrt (tool q * Str). A pick axe is preferable as it will mine much faster than a stone axe (factor of 3 if I recall) when quality is equal. You might not be able to mine with a low Q pick compared to a medium to high Q stone axe, though.

Another thing to consider when using a pick axe is that it consumes (approximately?) twice as much stamina, so you may be better off using a stone axe if the quality is of enough difference.
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