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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby romovs » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:24 am

Nah I wasn't going to make cliff part of the wall.
I wanted to build on the paved "L"-like area, just wasn't sure if it's allowed, since wiki says -
Extreme caution should be used when building palisades near cliffs as areas that appear usable, and may even allow the laying of stone or brick, may NOT allow the placement of a palisade.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:55 am

Easiest way to test: build a roundpole fence there. Easy to build, easy to tear down, and will give you all the information you need.

You can also just try to put a starter corner post down. If you can put it down, you can built/extend into that spot.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Flyrella » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:39 pm

Can someone remove my pclaim with Revoke the privilege?
I mean how does that work? I know that pclaim can be removed only being on a village territory. does that mean that someone can build a vclaim close to my pclaim and remove it or he can extend existing village building statues or banners on my claim territory? Explain pls
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:54 pm

Flyrella wrote:Can someone remove my pclaim with Revoke the privilege?
I mean how does that work? I know that pclaim can be removed only being on a village territory. does that mean that someone can build a vclaim close to my pclaim and remove it or he can extend existing village building statues or banners on my claim territory? Explain pls

Yes, it can happen. 2 ways to prevent it are:
-building your own v-claim on your p-claim. Nobody can get his v-claim there, then.
-extending your p-claim so big it's virtually impossible to unclaim it
First option is better.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Flyrella » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:30 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Flyrella wrote:Can someone remove my pclaim with Revoke the privilege?
I mean how does that work? I know that pclaim can be removed only being on a village territory. does that mean that someone can build a vclaim close to my pclaim and remove it or he can extend existing village building statues or banners on my claim territory? Explain pls

Yes, it can happen. 2 ways to prevent it are:
-building your own v-claim on your p-claim. Nobody can get his v-claim there, then.
-extending your p-claim so big it's virtually impossible to unclaim it
First option is better.

ok thanks, but can you explain the way how can someone do it? Is it possible to build a vclaim close enough to my claimed area? or can he build a vclaim/banners right on my claimed area?

I built a vclaim already and need some time till it become active, but I am curious is it possible that they do something right now so they can remove my pclaim...
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:48 pm

Flyrella wrote:ok thanks, but can you explain the way how can someone do it? Is it possible to build a vclaim close enough to my claimed area? or can he build a vclaim/banners right on my claimed area?

I built a vclaim already and need some time till it become active, but I am curious is it possible that they do something right now so they can remove my pclaim...


Then you should be protected already. Even if the vclaim isn't active (was just built or has lost all authority), it still occupies that space.

Revoke the Privilege is a lawspeaker skill that you get when you become the lawspeaker of a village. The cost to use it is 25x the LP cost of the claim (or 250 authority/ sq m). It's as simple as standing on the claim as a lawspeaker and using the skill. This is why large claims are hard to remove. It's hard to get a village up to the tens of millions of authority needed to revoke a claim with more than a few hundred thousand LP invested into it. A pclaim the size of a standard village (81x81) is about 65k LP, and would need about 1.6M authority.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:05 pm

Flyrella wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:
Flyrella wrote:Can someone remove my pclaim with Revoke the privilege?
I mean how does that work? I know that pclaim can be removed only being on a village territory. does that mean that someone can build a vclaim close to my pclaim and remove it or he can extend existing village building statues or banners on my claim territory? Explain pls

Yes, it can happen. 2 ways to prevent it are:
-building your own v-claim on your p-claim. Nobody can get his v-claim there, then.
-extending your p-claim so big it's virtually impossible to unclaim it
First option is better.

ok thanks, but can you explain the way how can someone do it? Is it possible to build a vclaim close enough to my claimed area? or can he build a vclaim/banners right on my claimed area?

I built a vclaim already and need some time till it become active, but I am curious is it possible that they do something right now so they can remove my pclaim...

They can crazily fast extend their vclaim to your base to unclaim it. This most likely won't happen.
They can build v-claim on your land, but it takes 24h to dry. By that time you can destroy it.
Edit: by crazily fast I mean they don't have to wait 24h. If they have the materials they can extend their vclaim to you anytime.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby Flyrella » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:30 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:They can crazily fast extend their vclaim to your base to unclaim it. This most likely won't happen.
They can build v-claim on your land, but it takes 24h to dry. By that time you can destroy it.
Edit: by crazily fast I mean they don't have to wait 24h. If they have the materials they can extend their vclaim to you anytime.

Oh that is what I asked, thank you
so anyone can build/extend vclaim over someone else's pclaim :o
lets see what will happen
there is a middle q water node (but best of all I had before) and it was claimed since the 1st day I settled there (like 2-3 months already)
I had a few points lower q node and used it without claiming so noone could see it easily. But one day my lower node was claimed so I went to that other node to check and saw that both pclaim and vclaim dissapeared so I pclaimed it that same moment...
I dk what is going to happen next
I hope they dont kill me :D
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:03 pm

Flyrella wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:They can crazily fast extend their vclaim to your base to unclaim it. This most likely won't happen.
They can build v-claim on your land, but it takes 24h to dry. By that time you can destroy it.
Edit: by crazily fast I mean they don't have to wait 24h. If they have the materials they can extend their vclaim to you anytime.

so anyone can build/extend vclaim over someone else's pclaim :o

Yeah but, since the only penalty of a claim is leaving scents, people raiding you wouldn't bother to get together the materials to unclaim you.
To answer the rest of what you said, don't worry, no claim = fair game.
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Re: Please Ask Simple Questions Here

Postby GrapefruitV » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:33 pm

hey forums, I thought this table might answer some of simple questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IZ_ ... sp=sharing
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