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Re: Really ticked off

Postby Potjeh » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:50 pm

Which can be drained with some kind of an archery instance attack.
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby warrri » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:51 pm

mhhh poisoned arrows...but then again, the meat would be useless!
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby Potjeh » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:08 pm

Was thinking more along lines of arrows with grooves for letting blood flow out more easily. Makes sense that blood-loss would sap stamina.

Then again, it's a bit hard to explain those being instance attacks.
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby sabinati » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:23 pm

make those fucking blood stems useful and have an instance attack that consumes a bloodstem, does "hemorrhage" effect, damage over time with a stamina drain.
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby Jackard » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:54 am

Rhiannon wrote:
loftar wrote:
Avu wrote:Intentions are dime a dozen until then you keep screwing over the little guy every other update.

Well, again; I'm really curious as to what alternative you would present. Should I leave every exploitable behavior in and never fix them? You might argue that I should have left it in until I fix archery and/or hunting, but even with that, it is supposed to be harder to hunt down animals than just shooting at them from a boat.

To be honest, I am quite amazed to see people complain about this change. Did you not react to this behavior being completely unreasonable in the first place? Did you really expect it to remain like that?

Unreasonable? I'm from the south US and trust me , ive been around hunters and farmers all my life and YES they sit on their asses in tree stands and boats and take down deers and boars with 2 shots of a composite bow!!! PLayers having to jump out of their boats, lose all their arrows, get lost from running halfway across a contenent chasing a "wounded animal" is way removed from reasonable.

ugh, realism argument.

anyways, both situations are unreasonable - trivial or frustrating combat is bad game design; old mechanics made archery trivial and new mechanics have rendered archery useless. its basically going from bad to worse, but honestly id rather not see them spend time making it go back to 'bad'

Haba wrote:We do understand that this is an alpha, and thus in ever changing state. However, you could try to

a.) consider the order you implement the changes

consider what are you asking, theyve never done this
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:54 am

[quote="sabinati" if you're on foot, nowhere near water, that could be considered a risk. if you're in a boat you're not at risk. the main complaint in this thread seems to be "i can't bowhunt bears from a boat", something that puts you at no risk for large reward.
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Wrong...some folks may have commented on that from their personal perspective but I made the thread and I have NEVER went "bear hunting". It was about the reason I began playing this game and fell in love with it...the specilization and ability to play in a deep and immersive atmosphere without having to suffer severe imbalances (sure there are some but they weren't game killers).

This new thing did not effect my "bear huntng from boats" because I never did it. IF he didnt like people shooting bears for massive LP from boats then REDUCE THE SPAWN of bears by 75% and make those folks do something else! If it so distressing. Or make bears uber dodgy or whatever but not punish/CRIPPLE the whole playerbase or whole system. I have my example of what this thread was about. Here it is again. I am working in my fields and I am attacked, I run into my cabin and, USE to be, I would put on my gear come back and face the boar/fox , If they got an edge on me I'd jump in the boat and continue from there, BUT plenty of times I would face them down face to face and get my reward (LP and materials). NOW, it doesnt matter, they take off running SO FAST that they cannot be caught after a couple hits REGARDLESS of where I am, boat or on foot. SO I get no materials for the crafting in the path I chose and the specialization I chose. And that Is unreasonable. And No kind of fun.

SO I don't see people just complaining about bears, I see people complaining because the game has been knocked out of balance with the original "claim" of its gameplay. Proven by th fact you are now saying to go melee. Well fine, you send me the armor and gear and weapons and the 300K lp I need to "replace" my specialization with a new one and I'd be happy to do that for ya! Since now mine is worthless.

I'll be waiting for all that metal you'll be sending me to become a one-hit melee fighter so I can make some cheese with one hit boar killing sword slashes for materials now...LOL
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby sabinati » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:09 am

well if they're running away that quickly when you're right there next to them it sounds like there's been a code error
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby loftar » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:13 pm

sabinati wrote:well if they're running away that quickly when you're right there next to them it sounds like there's been a code error

Indeed. I'll have to investigate that.
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby warrri » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:20 pm

Rhiannon wrote:This new thing did not effect my "bear huntng from boats" because I never did it. IF he didnt like people shooting bears for massive LP from boats then REDUCE THE SPAWN of bears by 75% and make those folks do something else! If it so distressing. Or make bears uber dodgy or whatever but not punish/CRIPPLE the whole playerbase or whole system. I have my example of what this thread was about. Here it is again. I am working in my fields and I am attacked, I run into my cabin and, USE to be, I would put on my gear come back and face the boar/fox , If they got an edge on me I'd jump in the boat and continue from there, BUT plenty of times I would face them down face to face and get my reward (LP and materials). NOW, it doesnt matter, they take off running SO FAST that they cannot be caught after a couple hits REGARDLESS of where I am, boat or on foot. SO I get no materials for the crafting in the path I chose and the specialization I chose. And that Is unreasonable. And No kind of fun.


He should reduce the bearspawn by 75% instead of punishing the WHOLE playerbase? YOu cant be serious.
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Re: Really ticked off

Postby Blaze » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:39 pm

How about this?

You guys can stop bitching about trying to have equal stats and boost str to a ginormous amount so you can hunt in mordor without having everything run away from you.

I had to give up dex and psy to be able to hunt out here. Why should you guys have the best of both worlds?
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