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Beeswax question

Postby Seriyu » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:10 am

So, I've got a beehive and a rather sizable farm going, and the beehive has been through a few crops worth of harvest, and there's no beeswax to be had. Do certain crops not generate beeswax? Is the fact that there's currently honey ready to harvest interfering somehow?

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Re: Beeswax question

Postby chris1122 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:09 am

YOu need to harvest all of the seeds and then replant a few times and it needs to be a little bigger.
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Gotrek64 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:09 am

As far as I know beeswax is randomly produced when a crop thats within it's range matures a stage. The quality of the wax from what I've experienced seems to be the average of all the quality of the crops around it. honey does not interfere with wax production as far as I've experienced.

In my last village I had 2 beehives covering 12 5x5 crop fields I got about 1-2 wax per harvest
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Seriyu » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:17 am

Hmm, okay. Some of my crops haven't been moved in range of the hive yet, so that might help. Thanks!
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby SpidersEverywhere » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:43 am

Also, beehives are super-buggy and sometimes will produce no wax at all for no clear reason.
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Seriyu » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:02 am

If that happens do I have to deconstruct them and then reconstruct them or do I just keep growing in their vicinity until it works again?
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Sever » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:01 am

I seriously doubt anyone really knows what to expect of a beehive. They've always been buggy and/or a mystery.

I've had hives built with Q10 materials give the best honey I've ever seen. I've had hives build with Q100 materials give the WORST honey I've ever seen. I've replanted fields and increased crop quality only to have the honey quality drop. I've tried to spread hives so that each hive has a lot of crops it covers exclusively, and yet it consistently produces very little. I've had fields completely inside the effect of at least 1 hive, and yet the 2 farthest rows grew slower.

The quality formulas are not in any obvious or rational way based on crop quality, hive quality, time between replantings, numbers of hives per crop or vice versa, number of types of crop covered, or really anything else that I've ever noticed.

I have a hive that gives Q85 honey and one that gives Q66. I don't like to mix them.
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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Zirikana » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:35 pm

I posit a hypothesis: There is some sort of "bee" object that is invisible in the game, but buried somewhere in the code in a dark, cob-webbed corner of java-land, and nowhere to be found by the casual observer. These "bees" have wildly varying q-values, and pollinate any hives they come in contact with while traversing the hearthlands. Bee quality is directly related to both wax quantity and wax quality.

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Re: Beeswax question

Postby DigDog » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:33 pm

Sever wrote:I've had hives built with Q10 materials give the best honey I've ever seen. I've had hives build with Q100 materials give the WORST honey I've ever seen. I've replanted fields and increased crop quality only to have the honey quality drop. I've tried to spread hives so that each hive has a lot of crops it covers exclusively, and yet it consistently produces very little. I've had fields completely inside the effect of at least 1 hive, and yet the 2 farthest rows grew slower.

The quality formulas are not in any obvious or rational way based on crop quality, hive quality, time between replantings, numbers of hives per crop or vice versa, number of types of crop covered, or really anything else that I've ever noticed.


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Re: Beeswax question

Postby Zirikana » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:15 am

There must be many posts in this forum that, taken out of context and shown to someone who has never even heard of H&H, would sound like the ravings of an absolute nutter :lol:
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