Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

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Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:39 pm

Macro

Get Linux. Dual boot or whatever. If you're playing H&H then there's nothing in windoze you can't do in Linux, better/safer/faster/cheaper. If you've never used linux before then Ubuntu's best release will be 10.04LTS/Lucid until the next Long term support release. Almost everything works out of the box and it can be dual booted and installed from within windoze with WUBI.

Get Xnee and GUI/panel apps Gnee & pnee if you like.

Record in full screen if possible to ensure synchronicity. Renice to prioritize xnee & the haven client to minimize lag and guage server lag to slow/speed up a macro depending on the 'weather'. Use standard arrangements by forming corners with snap to grid construction signs and using them as a reference point for beginning macros.

Macro Farm massive amounts of land if your system can handle it. If not, edit the client to replace the graphics with easier clicked, single sprite, images for less lag generation and more reliable macros.

Farm


Use plots that directly replant into plots thrice their own size and q sort out of a 5x5->5x10->15x10->45x10->45x30 etc. if you like. Best setups utilizes a 5x5 for every crop but fewer 5x10's and fewer etc. rotating crops as needs for production vary. For example I have a 5x5 for almost all crops, 5x5x10, 4x15x10, 2x45x10, 1x30x45. Poppies, for example are best suited for ending at a 10x15. If you're building a lot of mansions because the awesomeness of this system generates fucktons of fodder ~10-15q less than hand sorting all seeds and can throw up two mansions every replant if you take the wheat to the top or several hundred linen.

Oh and...this is really the only way to utilize seedbags for massive amounts of quality product. Seriously, prove me wrong. Because it is suited for massive amounts of seedbags to make harvesting and planting of the operation so quick and painlessly awesome, you will find that need to craft fucktons of seedbags. This, moreso the more people become involved in the operation.

It's also ideal because anyone cvan get LP replanting and thus in a community of varying skill newbies can catch up to community crop quality more quickly and plots can be multiplied any number of times without significant quality loss because even one more flip doesn't bring the average down more then 40. this way the best farmers can be responsible for the smallest portions of the community farm and no matter who harvests it doesn't permanently fuck up the community stock quality which is generated and maintained with minimal effort. Intuitively reducing the likelihood that IRL shit interferes with community based production structures like this one fail.

In fact, the best farmers might even be made responsible for maintenance of their own collection of 5x5's so that the community stock provisions can be further guaranteed against the common failures of most mid sized villages.

TIP: If you do like I'm doing and build a long row of mansions then put your 5x5's at the northside with your milking cows unlike I failed to do.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby DatOneGuy » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:59 pm

Been meaning to try that out and boot into ubuntu but I haven't booted into it for months and am in love with Win7 since I re-pimped it again.

Got any pics of your current set up? sounds very very nice.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Danno » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:35 am

Is there a reason for encouraging further afk play? Night/day, darkness in caves, hiding, and cartography have already been ruined... isn't that enough?
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby DatOneGuy » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:37 am

Danno wrote:Is there a reason for encouraging further afk play? Night/day, darkness in caves, hiding, and cartography have already been ruined... isn't that enough?

1)No
2)No it is not enough, everything so far is boring and drab repetitive clicking. There is no fun gameplay, after a while farming it feels more like punishment than anything else. The only 'fun' in that you see actual devlopment of your character without millions of years of waste is raising cows and making cheese (for making food anyway).

Pretty much the more that you can macro the better, cause this game is mostly just waiting anyway. Sausages? Why not automate the whole thing the game makes you sit there and 'craft all' any fucking way.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Onionfighter » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:16 am

Why even play then if you feel that way?
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Danno » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:28 am

I agree, the gameplay is dull at times, I assume more-so if you're part of an extremely established village. Updates are pretty scarce, it would be nice if we were given more to do. I think simply grinding for stats is even more dull, though. In any case, I think letting a script or whatever play the game for you is particularly lame when you're already at the top of the world, and it sorta cheapens the gameplay for the rest of us. While some might be automatically grinding up to 1000 STR due to it being too boring to do manually, newbs around the world are putting up palisades and praying that someone with ridiculous strength won't punch it down or find other rules about gameplay "boring" and use something like the wall jumping glitch.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Chakravanti » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:05 pm

Xnee will make anything that is boring macroable because it is reptitive.

Crop timers could be made to vary. It would even have some realism and then the benefit of being live would be getting a project done faster than a macro. Still, it doesn't change the 'boring and repetitive' factor enough.

So if you quit bitching about your choice to playtest an alpha long enough to come up with a better idea then let us know. I'll make an SS sooner or later. I haven't been in the game in forever because IRL shit has cropped up a lot last week for me.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby DatOneGuy » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:37 pm

Alright cool, and yeah I'm definitely against people who are 100% against macros as game play. The best games IMO incorporate macros, maybe not in this sense but at least give us a goddamn decent queuing system and maybe then one won't be needed (already suggested). Until then however, most MMOs are just "click this" repeatedly and then "WOAH RIGHT CLICK SUCKA, MIXIN IT UP!!!!!!!!!!", but point is it's all repetitive and we have enough of that repetition in doing stuff like hunting, I don't also want to deal with it in farming. I've always been a 'grey area' player, never aggressively hacking but macroing passively if I get bored, but boring is boring, and most MMOs are, however good people are usually what hook you, not a good game. HnH however is fun, just not all the time, like all games you can't be having 100% fun all the time, a good deal of it will be preparing for fun, it just happens to be very boring so... 8-)
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby Chakravanti » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:17 am

Sorry no SS but I haven't logged in since I posted this. As Hanuman so tactfully points out why. SO I rather posted it as my farewell gift to the community for those who have the desire to play and actually implement it. J&L already have a plan to fix the gameplay aspect of it with a queue and a character psychology minigame to play as the queue self-executes. The idea, naturally is as blizzard does, keep the player clicking or else boredom ensues and the game is just a work simulator. Bugt people liek those kinds of games too which is why runescape is popular.
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Re: Macro and/or Farm (Tutorial)

Postby blazsword » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:59 am

I want this but im useing windows 7 premium so it wont be possible for me? Anyway.. You don't know how boreing it is to farm huge wheat fields and it take hours to i tell you!
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