How much Murder LP?

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How much Murder LP?

Postby barra » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:02 am

Does murder LP come from the total LP earned by the character, or the total LP invested in skills? Would that include LP spent (stored) within personal claims?

My question comes from one of my alts used for claiming resource nodes like clay, water, etc. If the alt has no real skill investment but thousands of LP put into a personal claim, how much LP would it give? Just a percent of the ~5,000 lp to reach yeomanry or the 20-30k LP earned by the character?
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:39 am

You would not receive Any of the lp from the claim. Claims are not declaimed upon death so the lp from them does not transfer to your total lp pool. Thus you get no lp from the claim and it sits there like an lp storage bank for the deceased character.
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby MikeySix » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:57 am

barra wrote:Does murder LP come from the total LP earned by the character, or the total LP invested in skills? Would that include LP spent (stored) within personal claims?

My question comes from one of my alts used for claiming resource nodes like clay, water, etc. If the alt has no real skill investment but thousands of LP put into a personal claim, how much LP would it give? Just a percent of the ~5,000 lp to reach yeomanry or the 20-30k LP earned by the character?


Well someone killed me last night and got 3500 LP, and I barely had anything past yeomanry. I think I had just learned basic mechanics. I also had like 30 exploration 15 farming and 15 survival.

Really not worth it considering the amount of anger you can instill in somebody, and a lot of roaming rangers out there can come track and kill you. Better off doing things legitimately.
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:03 am

So you had about 100k total lp in your character when they died. A little less even.
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby MikeySix » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:04 am

TeckXKnight wrote:So you had about 100k total lp in your character when they died. A little less even.

Probably. I could check.

Yeah, 98k
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby barra » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:22 am

Thanks for the quick answer.
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby burgingham » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:08 pm

I think the real question here has not been answered yet. When you kill someone you will earn 1% of their total lp at 100% LA. That counts the total LP they ever earned, no matter if they spent it on claims, skills or have them still saved up.

The LP a murderer gets is in no way related to the reincarnation of the dead character though. Only change/tradition slider influences it and a claim will indeed survive the death of a character so it can be used as an lp bank.
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Re: How much Murder LP?

Postby barra » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:36 pm

burgingham wrote:I think the real question here has not been answered yet. When you kill someone you will earn 1% of their total lp at 100% LA. That counts the total LP they ever earned, no matter if they spent it on claims, skills or have them still saved up.
The LP a murderer gets is in no way related to the reincarnation of the dead character though. Only change/tradition slider influences it and a claim will indeed survive the death of a character so it can be used as an lp bank.


Yep Burgingham, after I made this thread Teck and I did a little research. Murder is 1% of total lp earned * learning ability, we already know that bit. If the alt puts all its LP into a claim and is then killed, it can get all the LP back by removing the inherited claim, same again. The important part was total lp earned. A character with 36000 LP earned and about 30k of it stored it in a claim gave 360*LA. When the inherited character removed the claim to get that ~30000 LP, it gave less than 100 when killed, because the declaimed LP wasn't "earned" even though it was available to spend on skills or put back in the claim.

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When we saw it was going off total LP including the claim rather than LP spent on skills or whatever I was worried we might have discovered a serious bug (claim-murder-inherit for unlimited LP), at least until we tested the second alt. At BEST this could be used to skim some LP off an alt that has no skills to lose from death, but you wouldn't be able to do it more than once for the character because the claim LP isn't added to the murder pool after inheritance.
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