Mining vs Everything else ever

[Krugz]

So I've been playing the game for roughly 6~7 weeks, not exactly the most experienced player ever, but I've died many horrible deaths and lost millions of LP; so you know I'm here to stay XD

Anyways, I've spent a lot of time hunting, I did farming, and more recently I started mining alongside our villager's miners. It seems to me, if you're looking to progress in this game at a fast pace, and you have the ability to mine, there's absolutely nothing better than mining. Hands-down, no questions about it. Or at least, that's how it seems to me.

So in this thread, I'd like to find out if I'm the only one who thinks so, I'd love to see some good counterarguments. Basically: Is mining the king of LP? *

Here's how I see things:
Mining Pros:
- Fast
if you have decent strength, and decent equipment you can fly through a wall like you're drinking water
- Easy
No real super skill involved, just make sure you stick to the pattern so cave-ins don't form
- Non-stop
There's almost no limit to the amount of mining you can do, if you want to keep mining... keep mining
- Reward
Chance to hit an ore node with gold, silver, or other metals
- Drains stamina
Easy way to burn stamina and hunger bar to make room for tons of FEP grinding alongside your LP grinding
- Good for fighters
Mining requires strength, giving you double benefit as being a good UC/Melee attribute
- Good LP from subsequent skills
If you get bronze, you can pump out smithing gear for a ton of LP (particularly bronze helms). This works for the other metals to lesser degrees too.

Mining Cons:
- Doesn't produce food
- Tedious work
- A bit mind-numbing after a while
- Risky? (very rare troll spawn / possibly raiders underground if someone mines into your cave)
- Drains stamina (if you don't have food, this activity is a bad idea..)
---------------- VS

Farming Pros:
- Easy
It's faster with a scythe, but anyone can be a pro farmer with patience and a bit of luck + good soil
- Reward
Often reaping small rewards through the drops associated with farming (linen, hemp buds, carrots, etc.) as well as the end results (cloth making, etc.)
- Drains stamina
Decent way to burn stamina and hunger bar to make room for FEP
- Low-risk
Assuming you're behind palisades/brick walls

Farming Cons:
- Slow, even with the scythe it's mostly slow since you likely have to spend time standing around picking out the best quality seeds to replant, replowing squares, etc.
- Drains stamina, a smaller con than mining since you can eat some of the harvest as you go along, assuming they are the points you want?
- Attracts attention, "look this guy has a lot of X crop! lets grab some!" (mostly about noobs without walls )
- Limited grind per day, and sometimes per multiple days depending on the crop
- High degree of lag for large fields due to the way data is stored about fields (even with my uber PC, and yes it's very very good, I still feel lag walking through a wheatfield that's way too big)
- Not very good for fighters, most of the attributes and derived skills are meh for fighters

--------------- VS

Hunting Pros:
- Random speeds
Sometimes you get a quick 100k LP like it was nothing at all, other times you're lucky to see a fox every hour or so
- Random rewards
Sometimes you get a couple bears within a short period of time, other times you maybe bring in a couple boars
- Relatively fun/engaging
If you do some UC/Melee mixed in with MM, you can have some fun and practice your skills as you grind LP
- Good food
Hunting can reward you with some awesome FEP foods via sausages. (BBB, DDD, Cow Chorizo, etc.)

Hunting cons:
- Risky, Might run into griefers, raiders, thieves, etc. while exploring. Also if you're a noob at combat, you might get yourself killed by a bear or something
- No stamina drain ,If you're fighting from a boat, as most hunters do, you'll probably almost never drain your stamina. If hunting is your main activity, you'll quickly find your attributes lacking
- Ranged is pretty horrible for PvP, so training it up isn't really a fantastic thing for fighters. It's good for stopping zerg rushes of alts though, maybe. If you're doing UC/Melee as your main hunting skill, it might not be so bad but you'll hunting significantly slower.. it's a trade-off imo
- Requires ammunition, not a terrible con, but it does get tedious to chip stone or deal with less inventory due to a quiver
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*Note: I'm not including things like map grinding, bucket grinding, etc. as those might be decent/better sources of LP, but they don't actually the benefit the village directly. I'm interested in the typical daily LP grinds that you would do for your village, as well as yourself. If I've missed something else, please mention it.

PS: Wasn't sure which forum this belonged in, feel free to move it if you think it belongs in the Inn or elsewhere.

[Potjeh]

You're right, mining is ridiculously overpowered, and certain people (*cough*AD*cough) are using it to macro up ~3.5mil LP a day.

[Krugz]

You're right, mining is ridiculously overpowered, and certain people (*cough*AD*cough) are using it to macro up ~3.5mil LP a day.

3.5 Million per... DAY? .... ........

That's like.. more LP in a day than I've ever had

( Where's my pickaxe...)

[slipper]

Sometimes I engage in fights vs small groups of aurochsen, it is fun and challenging, but a bit dangerous.

[chibikid]

you need look for a mine you need add to cons

[Krugz]

Sometimes I engage in fights vs small groups of aurochsen, it is fun and challenging, but a bit dangerous.

Mind if I ask your combat stats? if you'd prefer, you can PM them. Fighting multiple animals at once is difficult, in my experience.

you need look for a mine you need add to cons

~_~ your posts are always so informative...

[Mashadar]

you need look for a mine you need add to cons

You can build a minehole wherever you want. If it's just for the LP, you don't even need to bother prospecting beforehand.

[kohg]

mining makes your penis grow bigger.

true story.

Anyway ofcourse mining rocks, pretty much because, like you pointed out, the cons are very few, and lets face it, a troll spawning is not a con but more a pro.

[MagicManICT]

Anyway ofcourse mining rocks, pretty much because, like you pointed out, the cons are very few, and lets face it, a troll spawning is not a con but more a pro.

It's only a pro if you don't get one shotted by it.

Otherwise, the food/stamina can be an issue if you don't have a good food production going, either yourself (same character or alt) or a village. Tea, beer, and wine help offset the starvation a bit with the bonuses the caffine and booze brings.

For the farming, you don't even need good soil. It just means you'll have to pump more into your farming stat earlier to get the higher qualities.

[Krugz]

For the farming, you don't even need good soil. It just means you'll have to pump more into your farming stat earlier to get the higher qualities.

Higher quality farming = better farmed seeds/harvest?? I always thought it was hardcapped/softcapped by the soil quality.. would having (for example) 1000 Farming vs 50 Farming matter on an area with q20 soil?