Killing Animals

[Ejdzej]

What is better to killing animals? Armed Combat or Unarmed Combat?
I have only Stone Axe on 25 QL

I want kill fox firstly.
So what i need? Melee Combat on 40 ? Or Unarmed Combat?
Any shield?
Any armour?
Any skills are importand to do it? Maybe STR?

And at last Melee or Unarmed Combat is better VS players?

Its my 3rd day on this game. so im newbie.

[Saphireking65]

UAC. All UAC, all the time. Punch the animal's defense down, and use an axe/sword to kill it. Melee skill does not affect damage.

With foxes, you have to gain initiative as soon as combat begins, otherwise you will get your ass kicked. Also, read this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6518, and use the search function next time.

[Sevenless]

UAC. All UAC, all the time. Punch the animal's defense down, and use an axe/sword to kill it. Melee skill does not affect damage.

With foxes, you have to gain initiative as soon as combat begins, otherwise you will get your ass kicked. Also, read this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6518, and use the search function next time.

For a fox I find punching the defense bar down, one solid punch on HP and then a knock teeth out will insta kill a fox before it can run. Mind you, this is using a fair amount of strength... but yeah I've yet to need a weapon to do anything lol.

[Ejdzej]

This article dont tell me what is better to killing animals. Like BEAR ?? UAC?? Are u sure?
So Armed Combat Suck? Plz i need know why i should make full Melee Combat.

And im not good with englis so sorry,.

[Sevenless]

This article dont tell me what is better to killing animals. Like BEAR ?? UAC?? Are u sure?
So Armed Combat Suck? Plz i need know why i should make full Melee Combat.

And im not good with englis so sorry,.

Unarmed combat is generally better than melee. Ignore weapons entirely until you've figured out unarmed combat.

Just put all points into unarmed. A bear takes at least 200 UA to fight, so it's a long long way off.

[Ejdzej]

But Unarmed against players? Or better Armed?

And maybe easier will be ranged combat to kill animals?

[MagicManICT]

For anything bigger than a fox, forget either UC or MC. Use a MM and a good sling. You'll want some UA to finish the animal off, though, cause boar and deer will run.

For that finishing blow, having Cutthroat Knuckles helps.

This article dont tell me what is better to killing animals. Like BEAR ?? UAC?? Are u sure?
So Armed Combat Suck? Plz i need know why i should make full Melee Combat.

And im not good with englis so sorry,.

Go ahead and try to use UAC or MC on a bear. Better make sure that you're at full tradition first. (There is a combat guide for fighting a bear melee. Don't have the link, though, cause it ain't worth the time or materials used.)

(Your English is better than some I've seen posted here. )

[TeckXKnight]

If you're looking for a ridiculously simple method to killing animals, then:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16722

You're mostly going to use Unarmed if you plan to meet enemies in melee. There is absolutely no point in trying to do it with MC. The easiest method to killing animals is to just use marksmanship.

For boars, you don't need a signpost trap. Just get a sling, get in a boat, and hit them with one or two rocks until they run. Get out of your boat, change your movement to run speed, then chase them down and use punch on them 1-3 times. Your UAC doesn't matter, they have a defensive weight of 0 when they're running so you automatically do maximum damage every punch. Your punch damage is based 100% off of your STR (And knuckles if you have some on.) If you're going to melee them to death, then read the guide I posted but you don't need to make the signpost trap like I did. It helps as you don't need to chase them though.

Foxes are a bit more annoying because they'll run and you can't catch them. You'll need to make a signpost trap around them before killing them. Remember, they won't break signposts if they're fleeing, so just trap them at a shore, get in a boat, and sling them to death.

Bears either need or don't need a trap. Their damage threshold is pretty low if they cannot path to you, so don't use anything over a q10 sling. With a q10 sling you'll never do enough damage to make them flee, so you just keep throwing rocks at them until they die. If you're using a bow or sling that's too high in quality, then utilize a signpost trap.

For deer, it's a bit more tricky. You're almost guaranteed you won't be able to kill them with a shitty sling or bow, because they'll heal themselves too quickly. If you have terrible stats and equipment, then pull them away from the rest of their herd and trap them on a shore out of distance of the others so they can't be healed by them. Sling them or whatever until they go passive and heal themselves. Don't bother trying to use MM anymore now, engage them in melee. Charge! Until you have 48 Initiative, then Opportunity Knocks x4, Knock His Teeth Out, Flex x5, Opportunity Knocks, Knock his Teeth Out, Flex x5, Opportunity Knocks, Knock his Teeth Out. The deer is now dead.

Once you have Soldier's Training and Leadership, you can engage enemies in melee pretty easily. If you understand combat and how to fight (you don't) then you only need ~25 UA to fight foxes, ~60 for Boars, ~90 for Deer, and ~160 for Bears. It's tricky at these levels and a hell of a lot easier if you get it a bit higher. For point of comparison, if you were to only get MC and to use the Block Maneuver, for a Fox you need ~40 MC, Boars ~140, Deer ~210, and I never managed to safely kill a bear with only MC in w3. I mean, I killed them but I always took a lot of damage. Now they're even harder as they won't build their attack up once they've broken your defense and will instead choose to rapidly attack you.

Edit: For fighting players, you want both UA and MC. UA will win fights but MC will kill people. Which is more important is up to debate but it is without a doubt that you have to have a hefty amount of UA.

[Ejdzej]

Really helpfully tutorial.
So i think at start i try UAC.
Anyone know what is best choice to trying new enemies? for expample trying how much dmg do fox or boar, and what much Armour i need?

[TeckXKnight]

Really helpfully tutorial.
So i think at start i try UAC.
Anyone know what is best choice to trying new enemies? for expample trying how much dmg do fox or boar, and what much Armour i need?

Wear some leather armor, leather pants, and leather boots. This will block enough damage that you won't die if you accidentally get hit two or three times.
Honestly, damage is irrelevant, it just makes it go faster. More damage is always better but the methods I described to you can be done with 10 strength, 10 perception, or a q10 sling. The only exception is for bears and I went over why and when that applies.