How do I tree? Intermediate Level

[trondaron]

I've farmed a few trees, I'm up to Q38ish on my Firs. Here are my questions, thank you for any help you can offer, answer only as many as you have the patience to answer. Some of these are the result of rumors I heard from village mates or wiki talk pages.

- Do broad leaf trees consider Heath to be native terrain? Or is the only native terrain for any tree the terrain on which it can be natively found?
- Do soil/water/pot/table softcap the tree quality or are they additive in some way able to raise the quality of the tree faster?
- Does farming skill softcap tree quality or affect the -/+ of each successive generation?
- Do branches/cones etc. regrow each new stage? I'd heard they do but so far I have not had them regrow when the next stage arrives (this may be a result of over zealous villagers)
- Do paved tiles in the 3x3 box around the tree base slow tree growth?
- Should I be paving as much as I can around my trees to prevent animal spawn and thereby prevent growth stunting?
- Is 9 days long enough to expect a Fir on Coniferous forest land to fully grow? (ie. if it hasn't should I just assume it was stunted by nearby animal or hearthling?)

Thank you for any information you can provide me. Tree farmers unite!

[cloakblade]

So I'll spread some incite onto the questions I can, I'm not that experienced at tree farming so if I'm wrong feel free to correct me:

You should have at least a 5x5 (2 squares on each side) area around your tree. Its often suggested (or just done) where you do a 7x7 (3 squares on each side) because it has been observed that it may make a difference on some trees and it doesn't hurt other trees. You can pave to your heart's content but I'm not certain if animals (or other hearthlings for that matter) can stunt the grow of a tree and I would imagine it would have to be for an extended period of time.

The quality of a tree is probably (I could be wrong) an average of all the materials thrown into the pot and the pot itself. Some of the items maybe more important than others (I can't find the exact formula). The herbalist table I believe gives a +/- 5 quality. And the tree is softcapped by the farming of the person who plants it.

That's what I've learned.

[MagicManICT]

I've farmed a few trees, I'm up to Q38ish on my Firs. Here are my questions, thank you for any help you can offer, answer only as many as you have the patience to answer. Some of these are the result of rumors I heard from village mates or wiki talk pages.

- Do broad leaf trees consider Heath to be native terrain? Or is the only native terrain for any tree the terrain on which it can be natively found?
- Do soil/water/pot/table softcap the tree quality or are they additive in some way able to raise the quality of the tree faster?
- Does farming skill softcap tree quality or affect the -/+ of each successive generation?
- Do branches/cones etc. regrow each new stage? I'd heard they do but so far I have not had them regrow when the next stage arrives (this may be a result of over zealous villagers)
- Do paved tiles in the 3x3 box around the tree base slow tree growth?
- Should I be paving as much as I can around my trees to prevent animal spawn and thereby prevent growth stunting?
- Is 9 days long enough to expect a Fir on Coniferous forest land to fully grow? (ie. if it hasn't should I just assume it was stunted by nearby animal or hearthling?)

Thank you for any information you can provide me. Tree farmers unite!

Here's what I know:

1. Someone else needs to answer that, though my understanding is that grassland counts as 'native' for all trees. I'm not sure about heath or moor.
2. soil, water, pot, and the table that you germinate the tree on count in some way, though the wiki formula is wrong. (My first trees planted should have been q25+ otherwise.)
3. No idea. I only use my farmer alt to grow trees with (full nature).
4. Yes, everything regrows each stage.
5. Shouldn't, though don't take my word for it. (I've seen screenies of villages with 'tree boxes' but can't remember what size they were.) Other trees and such may stunt growth, though, as cloakblade said. Some trees do have bigger hit boxes than others, so they'll need a bit more growing space.
6. Animal spawning has no effect on tree growth. See 5. Also count on buildings and walls to stunt growth.
7. The final stage of growth is completely random because it is based on when the tile it is on receives a decay hit. If you planted 8 trees, I would have expected about half of them to make the final growth with a couple weeks of first planting. This is why some people plant so many trees at once.

I've tried to keep my mental facts up to date as there's speculation on the forums about some parts. Other parts are established facts. Hope I'm not spreading too many false rumors.

[trondaron]

Thank you both very much, I'm interested in what other people think/know also.

Cloakblade and Magicman thanks again, this helped clear some thoughts in my head.

[Potjeh]

Pine and fir consider conifer forest native; oak, maple, birch, elm and willow consider deciduous forest native; mulberry, apple and hazel have no native terrain (ie don't grow faster anywhere).

[novaalpha]

mulberry, apple and hazel have no native terrain (ie don't grow faster anywhere).

Are you sure about this? ))

[trondaron]

mulberry, apple and hazel have no native terrain (ie don't grow faster anywhere)

This makes me sad, but thank you for you information!

[Phaen]

I've witnessed mulberry growing slower on grassland and conifer forest terrain than on broadleaf forest terrain.

[Tonkyhonk]

I've witnessed mulberry growing slower on grassland and conifer forest terrain than on broadleaf forest terrain.

the same. my first time growing trees on broadleaf area this world, and im amazed how fast they are.
also, hazel and apple as well. those 3 grow faster on broadleaf forest terrains compared to others.
(im pretty sure all mulberry, hazel and apple trees are both deciduous and broadleaf in real life.)

grassland terrain seems to have no native trees to grow faster, but only one time experiment for each tree,
someone suggested doing this to check terrain changes on w3, so did loftar on IRC just a couple of days ago.


btw, does anyone know if it is technically "deciduous" or "broadleaf" for the botanical term used in this game?

[MagicManICT]

btw, does anyone know if it is technically "deciduous" or "broadleaf" for the botanical term used in this game?

Either works. Deciduous is the scientific term for plants that lose their leaves. I'm no botanist, but I don't know of any broadleaf coniferous trees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deciduous

I had to look it up myself for exact definition. Been too long since my last biology class (I was 16). I always remembered it as broadleaf and cone-bearing.