Base attributes to kill a bear/boar/deer

[dyd666]

Hi everybody

What kinds of value should be your base attributes to kill a bear/boar/deer?
And what kind of equipment?

P.s: I mean melee combat.

Thanks a lot

Bye

[cloakblade]

If you have to ask this question don't go melee go full ua.

Edit: The sticky has a stats about what you need to take on each animal. Though you will want to try and level agility because that can be a deciding factor in a fight. Foxes have high amounts boars have lower amounts.

[Kaios]

With the recent delta change I've noticed animals to be a little tougher, bears and deers especially. For bears I have no idea since with relatively high unarmed that on any other world would have been sufficient to kill a bear, now it seems it's quite difficult to kill a bear without taking damage. (Especially when they go in to enraged mode, and with animals murdering you really don't want to take any risks with a bear)

As for deer I'd recommend at least 100-200 unarmed. They're pretty easy to kill once you break their defense bar but they also raise it back up pretty fast. Not to mention the healing thing.

Edit: Whoops, didn't realize you wanted the values for melee combat. Probably the same thing but chances are you're going to need equal value in unarmed if you want to use (and you probably will need them) maneuvers.

[aso11]

As for deer I'd recommend at least 100-200 unarmed. They're pretty easy to kill once you break their defense bar but they also raise it back up pretty fast. Not to mention the healing thing.

Actually, I've seen my friend kill a deer with 20 after trapping it. The whole fleeing thingy.

[Kaios]

I presumed he wanted some advice for killing animals without trapping or making them flee with MM

[dyd666]

First of all , thanks to everyone for the answers.
What i want to know it's just what's the amount of strenght , constitution , agility to easily (more or less) defeat one of these animals , using melee combat.
If those values are good also for UC , well , it's better

Thanks guys

P.s: Exactly , no trap , no signs , nothing. Just me and the animal ,face to face

[cloakblade]

Constitution doesn't matter as you shouldn't be getting one shotted (or preferably hit), strength is a lower concern, the only ability you really want is agility exact amounts I don't know. And you don't need any you can take on boars with 10 in each stat, and bears you shouldn't take until you have decent stats.

I want to say foxes have the highest agility around 70. But that's just an estimate. Basically the more agility you have the more moves you can do in a given period of time so if you have 70 you should be able to at least match any animal.

This is the post that makes me think 70:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13501&p=150927&hilit=animal+agility#p150940

[MagicManICT]

Yeah, attributes aren't quite as important in combat as the actual skills.

It really comes down to balance when fighting animals. The higher the UA skill you have, the less you actually need agi. The delta will make up for the loss in movement speed. However, only so much agility will make up for a lack of UA skill. It's the skill relations that determine how much defense bar gets eaten by an attack and the delta determines the amount of gains by maneuvers.

[TeckXKnight]

I'd advise at least 40 constitution before you go into melee with animals. Closer to 100 for bears as they may very well land a hit or two on you. HP buffer and armor make all the difference between life and death if things go awry. You never know when there'll be a lagg spike or when a second boar appears. The worst scenario I've had was when fighting a boar, another boar and then a bear came out and decided they also wanted to kill me right then and there. This happens and stealth animals can come out of nowhere.

Strength is great for Bears but not necessary for Deer or Boars. Just Sting Boars and Deer to great victory. For bears, I'd suggest getting closer to ~100+ Strength so that your punches can whittle them down. You need to drop them down to ~300hp slowly and surely. No stings or valor strikes as they'll scare them away or enrage them. You do not want to enrage them. When they're low, land the killing Sting.

Agility. You can never have enough of it. Ever. Animals have tons and you're wearing heavy armor. You can fight with 1 Agility if you're crazy but really get it over 100 so you can handle wearing steel plate without being a snail.

Exact numbers vary a bit depending on how brave you are and the animal levels but I'm going to assume they're all max level for this (10 for bear and deer, 7 for boar, 4 for fox.) ~25 UA for foxes, make sure you don't have Bloodlust up when you're about to get swung at. Always keep your defense up. ~80 for boars if your agi is >60. Not only do you need to beat boars, you have to beat the fast or they'll just start racking up combat advantage and then win. Every time they swing, even if it's a miss, they get a bit of combat advantage over you. Worse yet, they passively get some combat advantage while charging up against you and on top of it all they have a special ability that just gives them a flat +1 Combat Advantage. At ~110 you can wrestle with deer. They won't gain combat advantage over you so you can leisurely build up initiative while keeping your defense up.

Bears are the most terrifying opponent and often just not worth fighting fair. If you can, practice on them near some lake shallows so you can bail if things get bad. Like boars, they're gaining combat advantage on you passively, so time is not your friend. Worse yet, they also break down your defenses fast and hard. I'd really advise having 180-200 UA for fighting your first bear. Don't even bother if your agility is trash.