WWW seed quality

[Taels]

What's the formula for seeds from WWWs?

I put a q18 WWW on an herbalist table made from q6-13 plant fibers and q19 boards, with 20 farming, and got a q6 seed. That doesn't make sense to me.

[MagicManICT]

What's the formula for seeds from WWWs?

I put a q18 WWW on an herbalist table made from q6-13 plant fibers and q19 boards, with 20 farming, and got a q6 seed. That doesn't make sense to me.

A table is the average of all materials. What was the quality of the blocks used? I'm guessing 10.

From what I can tell, herb tables halve the quality of weeds after any softcaps from table quality are applied. I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. You can get seed quality up pretty fast from farming.

I've not checked this, but drying racks take longer, so they may not softcap the quality any. My thinking is (and it could be completely wrong) that many other things get quality halved when done at a faster rate or with a smaller batch. If you're that concerned, try it.

[Taels]

I suspected it might be halving the quality; thanks for the confirmation.

I'll try a drying rack, but it sure will be painful drying dozens of seeds on those.

[btaylor]

I thought crafting objects were no longer softcapped by the materials used to create them? I heard that the Kiln was no longer softcapped by the quality of clay used, anyways... I might be wrong.

[GrimEggbert]

Pretty sure WWWs are completely random, within some % of the original weed quality as to the quality of seed produced.

I remember trying to figure out the quality of a few herb tables in W3 by putting equal quality WWWs on each of them and I ended up with wildly different results.

[MagicManICT]

I thought crafting objects were no longer softcapped by the materials used to create them? I heard that the Kiln was no longer softcapped by the quality of clay used, anyways... I might be wrong.

Tools--(B)uildings that are used for crafting (kiln, herb table, etc)--aren't. They're the average of the quality of materials used to make them. In the case of his herb table above:

q10 blocks (assumption)
q19 boards (given)
q6-13 fibers (given)

This could give anywhere from a q12 to q14 table depending on what the fiber average is.

I haven't explicitly tested drying WWW on an herb table for a formula. It could be a +/- range based on the quality of the table and weed. I have just noticed, even on a good quality table, the weeds always come out at around half q at best.

As a note, what tools do softcap is the materials being made with said tool.

I'll try a drying rack, but it sure will be painful drying dozens of seeds on those.

I agree. It's how everyone has to do it until they get enough hemp or flax, though.

I remember trying to figure out the quality of a few herb tables in W3 by putting equal quality WWWs on each of them and I ended up with wildly different results.

I like using tobacco. The tables are actually a part of the quality equation in the drying process, so quality can go up or down.

[GrimEggbert]

I like using tobacco. The tables are actually a part of the quality equation in the drying process, so quality can go up or down.

Yeah, I did the same thing with grapes>raisins and got some pretty static results. I just didn't know back then and thought I'd try it with wwws as well, and ended up with crazy results.

Which leads me to believe that there's quite a bit of randomness between the weed>seed transformation.

[Taels]

Yeah, it does seem random.

I left a q6 wheat seed on the table, and it germinated into a q8 gws. That means the table is q10 or q11, right? (BTW the blocks were indeed q10, and the plant fibers were more low than high q, like 6,7,7,8,9,10,11,13 or something IIRC.)

Crazy that a q18 WWW on a q10 table leaves a q6 seed, but the formula (half WWW q +/- a random value) fits and seems to fit my other results too.

I wonder if the drying rack will do better.

[GrimEggbert]

At the beginning of the world I was turning q50ish WWWs into q35ish seeds with drying racks.