Cave Entrance Storage Area

[foomanchu]

I have a walled off cave as part of my hermitage, and I am starting to run out of cupboard space. I read that caves/underground layers do not have decay so I was thinking of using that 50 or so tiles of unminable area as additional storage space (as opposed to building a new house or two). A majority of that unminable area is outside my walled compound, and my question is whether or not someone planning on raiding me would be able to build a mineshaft leading to my unminable storage area?

I initially planned on walling the outside entrance to my cave to seal in my hermitage from theft, but decided to wait it off to seal off the front area in the cave at the minable border (50 or so tiles from the entrance) to allow for a lot extra cupboard space. I havent started building the walls yet but have the materials ready. Before i set the walls and start piling in cupboards, I would like to know if someone would be able to build a mineshaft that will connect to that storage area from up above? I can wall of that portion of land above that cave entrance, but dont have all the mats to do that yet, so I figured id ask on the forums while I gather the mats.


TL:DR
Can a mineshaft be built above the cave to lead to the 50 or so tiles of unminable area of a cave entrance?

[Girlinhat]

Short answer: Yes, mineshafts can connect to caves. The entire underground layer is one solid layer, so any minehole on the surface can reach the 1st underground layer, leading to some crafty invasions where the invaders found the enemy's cave, and mineshafted into it.

Real answer: Mineholes are expensive. You're not worth it. There may be other cave entrances to your cave, however. Watch out for others on the same cave coming over.

Fun fact: you can place a claim inside a cave.

[foomanchu]

thanks for the reply

i explored the cave system (well most of it).. the only other cave entrance is in a nuked zone (that i know of what i explored so far)
I planned on walling off part of the cave (the point where i can finally start mining to create a spot) so I am not overly worried about any mineshafts outside that walled area (since they cant mine behind my wall due to the cave entrance)

I apologize for nitpicking but your answer just states that mineshafts on the surface lead to the surface area. I am only concerned with the walled off portion within the 50 tile radius of the cave entrance on the first layer. I understand that I am not worth the mats for a mineshaft (yet at least ) but can a mineshaft be built on the surface within the 50 tile radius (where the ladder plops right in the middle of the cave within the 50 tiles of the entrance)?

[MagicManICT]

That's not a very complete answer above.

There's a lot of quirks with mineholes. I'm not going to try and list them all because I can hardly ever remember more than half. The bugs and issues are around if you want to dig for them. Several of them deal with minehole placement in relation to caves entrances, mined tiles, and cavern floor.

Walling off the cave entrance is an absolute must. Use the area you can't mine out to secure the wall against so you only have to build a very short wall.

You have to build the cupboards in a house of some sort, but there's nothing stopping you from moving them into the cave. The big issue with what you stated is that you only have the narrow corridor in which to place cupboards (the rest can't be mined, so can't take it out to place stuff in that area). A lot of players mine out a large area and build housing and such underground. It's all up to you.

Players may not put a mineshaft in to dig into your little hermitage, but someone tunnelling across the grid and happens to stumble upon your place might just tear it open and take what they can just because, worth it or not.

To answer your specific question, yes, but if I recall right, the shaft will either lead nowhere, or you'll have an exit below, but can't mine anything due to the proximity to the entrance.

[foomanchu]

Hyrion wrote:
Hi all.

We recently finished building a mine, but we cant go inside.
We get an error that says: "The area below is occupied"

This is our first minehole and it cost us a lot to build it, so we were pretty sad and dissapointed that we could not go inside.

Any ideas? Can the devs help?

Should we give it up and just wait another 3 weeks to get enough wax/leathers to build another one?

That means the either the area below is mined out, theres actually something in the way, or u built it near a cave entrance. No the devs wont help (they wont help for anything like that). You'll have to build a new one =(.

from the bugs section..
thanks for the replies

[foomanchu]

well was browsing bugs section and there seems to be conflicting responses
anyone have the knowledge to clear this up please?

euh, you can drop a minehole in the 101x101 area around a cave entrance but you can not mine anything else, still that leaves a nice secure vault.. (and build something to prevent people from walking down there ofc)

unless im just plain confused and dont know if this person is talking about placing a minehole in the 1st layer near a cave entrance that leads to the 2nd layer
but from the quote, i interpret it as a minehole on the surface near a cave entrance to go to the 1st layer