Fep Chart for best odds

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Fep Chart for best odds

Postby chexmixtoon » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:35 am

So I am pretty new to HnH but am completely addicted already, so to fill my time during the server crash I though to myself why not make a concise chart of the seemingly best foods for each skill. So I hope this helps I know I will be using it a lot.

How the chart is listed
Each attribute has its own line in which the foods to increase that attribute are listed. Also with the name of the food are two numbers the first is how many feps you will receive from eating that food and the second is the percentage of the total feps for that food. For example roasted brill gives 2 feps for strength and 2 feps for dexterity so it is listed under both strength and dexterity with a 50% chance in both attribute. The foods on the chart are listed from highest percent to lowest. Some foods have the same percentage so those are listed from highest amount of feps to lowest.

How to use the chart
Simply find the attribute you wish to increase go down the list to find the highest percentage foods that you are able to obtain in game and consume to your hearts content. Now I can't be sure if I'm thinking correctly but if you only have lower percentage foods I believe that you can increase the odds of raising the attribute that you want by mixing and matching the foods. For example say you are trying to increase dexterity but all you have are roasted roach and roasted brill, eating just roasted roach will give a 50/50 chance of raising either dexterity or intelligence whereas if you eat a mix of the brill and the roach you still have a 50% chance of raising dexterity but the other 50% is now split between intelligence and strength.

I did leave out the foods that either give no feps or only hurt. I also included the chances of hurt from the foods that do give feps but if anything else is missing or wrong please let me know and I will do my best to fix it. Also I apologize for the length but I couldn't think of any way to shorten it without taking away from the effectiveness of the chart.
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby Procne » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:40 am

How is that different / better than http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/FEP_Table
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby chexmixtoon » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:49 am

Procne wrote:How is that different / better than http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/FEP_Table
?


um well i guess its not really i kinda wish I had found that first. I did some searching around but only found less extensive charts. well it was worth a try and kept me busy. :? sorry for the clogging of the forums.
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby Yolken » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:47 am

One thing that could be interesting is how much you actually earn by mixing food instead of just using 1 or 2..
example:
Str is desired attribute
should i eat piglet wurst's to my heart(lings) content and get 100% str

or should i change it too get the new food fep bonus (1 carrot, 1 blueberry pie, pumpkin met etc) to get lower %str but faster attribute up and thus using less piglet wursts?

my question, or more thought that it would be interesting looking into is:
if str is all you want, will it be good to change it up with foods that dont give str fep too lvl it faster?
also how does this change the need to increase hunger as you level attributes?
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby min_the_fair » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:03 pm

Aaand this is where quality comes in. One piglet wurst plus one piece of roast boar meat gives both diversity and 100% STR. Add a piece of raw pumpkin, because that's still 50% STR. Now kick in with diversity stuff: one low q mussel, carrot, chantrelle, grape etc. And use pepper on the piglet wursts. Higher quality food gives more FEPs, but low q stuff still gives the diversity bonus.

... Of course, I tend to end up getting dex when I don't want it, so be careful and if you *really really* want something don't try and be clever with diversity.
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby Yolken » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:45 pm

yes but when calculating it it might be worthwhile to say mix it up to get 3 skillups with 50% str instead of 1 time with 100%, using an equal amount of str food... not so much interested in this specific example but more if someone actually already done these calculations and in what way this is made easy...

also if theres some table over "use these food to not get this attribute" to get a more equal attributes(instead of spiking with one)
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby ImAwesome » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:49 pm

don't forget wine, its not a huge bonus but it gives the diversity bonus without giving you some stat fep you don't want
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:41 pm

Yolken wrote:yes but when calculating it it might be worthwhile to say mix it up to get 3 skillups with 50% str instead of 1 time with 100%, using an equal amount of str food... not so much interested in this specific example but more if someone actually already done these calculations and in what way this is made easy...

also if theres some table over "use these food to not get this attribute" to get a more equal attributes(instead of spiking with one)


Check out the FEP article on the wiki. The absolute best way to use the FEP system is variety. You maximize your bonuses and get more stat points over the long game. Even if you get the odd Dex or Cha point, you'll still be better off than someone that ignores the variety bonus. I'm not sure anyone has made or attempted any sort of eating calculator as it's pretty easy to decide what to eat for what point. I suppose if you want to do an analytical decision on what to eat and how best to prepare to eat it, you could do a pretty intense spreadsheet on it. Pepper is a huge pain in the ass to deal with, so I suppose knowing how much or little pepper to use would be worth the effort.

FYI, the FEP table is always available on the left hand column of the wiki. It's just that important.

ImAwesome wrote:don't forget wine, its not a huge bonus but it gives the diversity bonus without giving you some stat fep you don't want


Wine and beer both provide an FEP bonus without giving any FEPs. They do fill hunger, though, so be careful and just drink one portion, or you'll be filling hunger with no extra FEP bonus.

Since we're mentioning FEP bonuses, don't forget to smoke your hemp bud before feasting. Smoke the first, wait for the bar to fill, then smoke another (cause the first will be running out of time).
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Re: Fep Chart for best odds

Postby Chakravanti » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:27 am

To adjust for quality just multiply as if you were consuming multiple if it's 27, consider it 1 + 17/40. if it's 64 consider it 2 + 24/50. etc.
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