What is the best way to gain LP as a hermit farmer?

[Brandmaner]

Any and all advice welcome. I also might be looking for a bigger village that will aid in leveling my farming to better the crops of the village.

[Ketu]

For me, ant loot and the curios (bones, leather and feathers) I can make.
Force feed yourself cone cows while online, load up on others when you log off.
Bump up your int (berries) so you can study more at once.
Increase your Tradition/Change to max Change to get a bigger muliplier.

[Persius]

For me, ant loot and the curios (bones, leather and feathers) I can make.
Force feed yourself cone cows while online, load up on others when you log off.
Bump up your int (berries) so you can study more at once.
Increase your Tradition/Change to max Change to get a bigger muliplier.

in addition:
go for full civilization = +30% intel
go for full peaceful = +20% learning ability
with this and with ur full change = x3 multiplier

and maximize learning... youll get more LP

[MagicManICT]

From one hermit to another: those posts above are same things I'd tell anyone for LP gains. It's too general. Foraging is going to be one of the best sources of curios for anyone, though, so be prepared to do it regularly. If you take a look at the Curiosity Table on the RoB wiki, you'll find there's only a couple of curios that can be produced purely by farming. I would suggest making a miner alt and finding a friendly neighbor that will let you mine some of their ore or will trade for farming goods. (Note: a mining alt would be almost pure Str, some Con for survivability, full Industry, and maybe the stats for smithing.)

Some things you can do as a farmer:

Get a few animals quickly. Chickens for feathers (feather duster);
Sheep for wool (stuffed bear, need to hunt a bear), bones (seer's bones), and leather (leather ball, but is crap, so only if you can't fill your mentory); Boars (pigs) for tusks, bones, and leather;
Cattle provide nothing special for curios, just bigger hides and more bones.
Remember that you can use dried hides to make hide straps, which is string, and may be better than any you can forage or are growing.

Wheat (straw) and flax or hemp (plant fiber) make straw dolls, which are one of the best non-foraged curios. Grind quality up as quickly as you can and they rival even some of the foraged curios. (I have a small patch of wheat and hemp I use just for this.)

Poppies. They're useful for so many things, and make great curios just plucked fresh from the ground! If you're having problems getting them from WWW, beg, borrow, or steal from a neighbor. (Warning: Theft may leave scents, which can lead to your execution.)

Tree farming. Better quality trees mean better cone cows (fir trees) and bark boats (birch trees). What was good starting out becomes exceptional later on.

As for increasing Int, get winemaking. This will pay for itself over and over with the wine you produce. The lowest level buff from alcohol consumption actually increases Int. It also helps provide FEP without filling the meter any. Note: store wine in buckets or bottles so it won't turn to vinegar. (Beer provides the same bonuses, but is a bit harder to make and requires a tin tankard to drink.) Building a village totem? Make a lawspeaker robe and hat. both provide Int boosts. A Necro cloak provides a small boost, too, but requires purchasing Murder with some pricy prereqs, so may not be worth the expense.

You mentioned joining a village. As long as you have 30-40 farming, you'll probably find someone to take you, but the higher you can get it before joining a village, the more options you'll have. Otherwise you'll need to be content doing grunt work until you get your farming up. Grunt work can be anything from keeping things/walls in repair, mass harvesting hemp or flax to make village banners, hauling logs or chests around, etc. When/if you make the decision to join, make a post in Dwarves & Thieves: viewforum.php?f=24

[Persius]

Re: What is the best way to gain LP as a hermit farmer?

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:03 am


Remember that you can use dried hides to make hide straps, which is string, and may be better than any you can forage or are growing.

i have a question : comparing same quality hide straps vs. plant fibers

which one is better...and by how much..?

[screwbag]

Re: What is the best way to gain LP as a hermit farmer?

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:03 am


Remember that you can use dried hides to make hide straps, which is string, and may be better than any you can forage or are growing.

i have a question : comparing same quality hide straps vs. plant fibers

which one is better...and by how much..?

I think they are the same at the same q... But if you have high q animals you can have high q string....I prefer the fibers...they grow faster....

But early in game a bear hide gives huge gains over what a noob can farm...which means better sling or curio q etc...

[MagicManICT]

I think they are the same at the same q... But if you have high q animals you can have high q string....I prefer the fibers...they grow faster....

But early in game a bear hide gives huge gains over what a noob can farm...which means better sling or curio q etc...

This is exactly what I'm referring to (and yes, quality for anything needing string is the same no matter what is used). Even with a q10 tool, you get q35-40 hides from boars and q105+ from bears (before softcapping by Survival, of course). It's not too much of a stretch to get a q20-30+ tool to skin with. Find a cave and chip stones and look for quality. Go digging on mountains and check what you get just like you would with clay. You should have a q30+ sharp tool within a week without trading if you can locate yourself on the map or just explore the area you settled in enough. Deer are a bit harder to kill than bears for beginning players (due to heals), but they can give q55+ hides (before softcapping).

If you are thinking of curios, I'd save dried bear hides for stuffed bears. Pick some clover to feed to mouflon if you haven't tamed any sheep yet. Make sure to make your bear cape and any jewelry or other items from your bear teeth and deer antlers first, and then they make decent curios (however they take a lot of attention, so not something you'll be doing early unless you're having a hard time finding others). They're especially nice if you know you're going to be offline a bit longer than usual. Nothing like logging in to 30 or 40k LP.

[bananenmarmelade]

it is very good to live nearby a swamp as hermit farmer (that what i do)

when i started my standard curiodiet was usually made up of:
(relatively low attention, high lp/hour)

ladys mantle
dewy ladys mantle
dragonfly
strawdoll
seers bones
seers tea leaves
birchbark boat

if you could find them/have access also:

feather duster
toadstool
tangled bramble
thorny thistle

what you could also consider:
prism (not too hard to make - basically just needs sand)