Spring Stew

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Spring Stew

Postby Vengent » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:22 pm

Was trying to some new recipes to use up all these carrots, made some spring stew.

The value of the raw ingredients (for perception).

1.1 + 1.1 + 2.4 + 2.4 = 7

The value of the finished product = 4.6.

So, is it because of the ingredients not being high quality? Or does eventually the finished product eventually surpass the raw ingredients?
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby graal » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:31 pm

The problem is probably that the quality of the water/cauldron is lower than the ingredients.

If you check the wiki, a carrot Q10 has 1 FEP, and a peapod Q10 has 1 FEP (so, a total of 4 FEP for the recipe). The spring stew on the other hand has 6 FEPs. There is also the difference of the spring stew having half the FEPs going towards Charisma and the other half towards perception.

But even in your example, the total FEPs of the spring stew is still higher than the total FEPs of the carrots+peapods. However, if you want something specific, as perception, I would recommend eating the ingredients alone to avoid getting charisma instead.
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby LadyV » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:10 am

graal is correct you will get more perception by eating the individual items and skipping charisma.
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:24 pm

1. formula is usually: (avg ingredient 1 + avg ingredient 2 + avg ingredient n) / n. This can then further be softcapped by your skills and/or attributes. Also, when using cauldrons, if the quality of the water in the cauldron matters, is halved if it's a clay cauldron. If you have a skill and a ability softcapping the quality, it's figured as the geometric mean-- the nth root of (a * b * ... * n). (The cauldron itself never matters if I recall right.)

2. The final product of food is always greater than the individual parts. Just remember to account for the quality formula.
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby graal » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:33 pm

MagicManICT wrote: (The cauldron itself never matters if I recall right.)


Unless the wiki is wrong, the cauldron quality does matter. In the http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Boiled_River_Pearl_Mussel , for instance, we have:

The resulting item quality is influenced by the quality of the water and the mussel, and is softcapped by cooking and hardcapped by the cauldron's quality.


Also, in the cauldron page http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Cauldron , you can read:

The qualities of the water, fuel, ingredients and of the cauldron itself affect the quality of the result differently depending on the product.


Therefore, I believe the cauldron quality is important depending on what you are cooking (and possibly on everything).
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby Sevenless » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:45 pm

graal wrote:
MagicManICT wrote: (The cauldron itself never matters if I recall right.)


Unless the wiki is wrong, the cauldron quality does matter. In the http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Boiled_River_Pearl_Mussel , for instance, we have:

The resulting item quality is influenced by the quality of the water and the mussel, and is softcapped by cooking and hardcapped by the cauldron's quality.


Also, in the cauldron page http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Cauldron , you can read:

The qualities of the water, fuel, ingredients and of the cauldron itself affect the quality of the result differently depending on the product.


Therefore, I believe the cauldron quality is important depending on what you are cooking (and possibly on everything).


Cauldron quality is interestingly misleading. If I remember correctly, the cauldron doesn't have a direct effect on the quality (Ie a Q9001 cauldron will never raise the quality of your stew). However, if the cauldron quality is below that of the water inside it, the water is used at a value of effectively (CauldronQ+WaterQ)/2. Generally speaking that's not something you'd use your best metal bars on, but using decent ones isn't a bad idea.

Where it really gets bad is clay cauldrons. Clay cauldrons always have a quality of 0. That means they halve the quality of the water used to make the stew.

Been ages since I played though. That's just what I remember.
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby Vengent » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:06 pm

Where it really gets bad is clay cauldrons. Clay cauldrons always have a quality of 0. That means they halve the quality of the water used to make the stew.


That's the problem i'm sure.

Glad to hear that they -should- be better than the ingredients though.
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Re: Spring Stew

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:53 am

Cauldrons are one of those areas where the wiki needs to be cleaned up... a LOT. I can't stand all the lag and so I've left the game for now. (Don't know why I haven't worked on cleaning it up before... probably because it IS work and not just needing a good rewrite).
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