[solved]wrought iron and belief[thanx for answering]

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[solved]wrought iron and belief[thanx for answering]

Postby tmgame01 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:46 am

i read the wiki where it said full nature belief wont influence the chance that a bloom transforms into a wrought iron.
but in the game, my full nature char hammered 20 blooms and got no wrought iron. all blooms became cast iron bars.

i wanna ask whether nature belief negates wrough iron crafting or it was just my bad luck? :|
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby painhertz » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:47 am

Belief has nothing to do with metal. At all. period.
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:01 am

tmgame01 wrote:i read the wiki where it said full nature belief wont influence the chance that a bloom transforms into a wrought iron.
but in the game, my full nature char hammered 20 blooms and got no wrought iron. all blooms became cast iron bars.

i wanna ask whether nature belief negates wrough iron crafting or it was just my bad luck? :|

Erm, belief does have chance over turning bloom to wrought, I believe it's naturally a 33% chance, 0% at full nature and 67% at full industry.
Could you direct me to the page which gave you this information?
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby painhertz » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:02 am

ApocalypsePlease wrote:
tmgame01 wrote:i read the wiki where it said full nature belief wont influence the chance that a bloom transforms into a wrought iron.
but in the game, my full nature char hammered 20 blooms and got no wrought iron. all blooms became cast iron bars.

i wanna ask whether nature belief negates wrough iron crafting or it was just my bad luck? :|

Erm, belief does have chance over turning bloom to wrought, I believe it's naturally a 33% chance, 0% at full nature and 67% at full industry.
Could you direct me to the page which gave you this information?


Shit, my bad...I'm thinking about something else.
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:05 am

painhertz wrote:Shit, my bad...I'm thinking about something else.

Kinda caught me off-guard a bit, was confused why you said that. No worries though
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby painhertz » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:24 am

Was half assed thinking about noobs thinking nature controls how many pearls ya get or something..
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby tmgame01 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:07 am

thanks alot, so i would no longer invest smithing on my full nature char.
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:23 am

tmgame01 wrote:thanks alot, so i would no longer invest smithing on my full nature char.


Actually, there's a good reason for that. There's a method of increasing bar quality through constantly running it through the finery forge and then pounding the blooms back into iron bars for the random chance of quality increase. Once you're bars go up, you increase your anvil and hammer, etc., etc. until you're getting higher quality bars than anyone else is. It takes a LOT of time, charcoal, and ore to pull it off, though.
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby painhertz » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:57 am

MagicManICT wrote:
tmgame01 wrote:thanks alot, so i would no longer invest smithing on my full nature char.


Actually, there's a good reason for that. There's a method of increasing bar quality through constantly running it through the finery forge and then pounding the blooms back into iron bars for the random chance of quality increase. Once you're bars go up, you increase your anvil and hammer, etc., etc. until you're getting higher quality bars than anyone else is. It takes a LOT of time, charcoal, and ore to pull it off, though.


Is that what they mean when they mention spiraling or whatever?
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Re: wrought iron and belief

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:31 am

painhertz wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:
tmgame01 wrote:thanks alot, so i would no longer invest smithing on my full nature char.


Actually, there's a good reason for that. There's a method of increasing bar quality through constantly running it through the finery forge and then pounding the blooms back into iron bars for the random chance of quality increase. Once you're bars go up, you increase your anvil and hammer, etc., etc. until you're getting higher quality bars than anyone else is. It takes a LOT of time, charcoal, and ore to pull it off, though.


Is that what they mean when they mention spiraling or whatever?

Yep, that's spiralling.
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