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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:59 am

Ninijutsu wrote:Hmm, I wonder why my guide was excluded from a re-sticky over the others :\


It's in Jackard's Guides and Walkthroughs post.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide

Postby Ninijutsu » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:01 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Ninijutsu wrote:Hmm, I wonder why my guide was excluded from a re-sticky over the others :\


It's in Jackard's Guides and Walkthroughs post.


Yes but Jcoles' and Sevenless' guides were there as well and Jacky decided to sticky them again.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide

Postby NOOBY93 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:04 pm

Ninijutsu wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:
Ninijutsu wrote:Hmm, I wonder why my guide was excluded from a re-sticky over the others :\


It's in Jackard's Guides and Walkthroughs post.


Yes but Jcoles' and Sevenless' guides were there as well and Jacky decided to sticky them again.

Those are universal, but not everyone cares about PvP.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide

Postby RJT » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:18 am

Old post, but I just read it, from what I skimmed over, it was probably excluded because it's bad.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide

Postby Ninijutsu » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:56 am

I haven't been giving Opportunity Knocks enough credit. Even in static combat, even against an even opponent, it has applications. Example: If your opponent is at 50%~ defense bar, a punch wouldn't hit him for HP damage. If you were to punch and then quickly get more attack bar to punch again, the cooldown of punch often opens up a significant opportunity for your opponent to be able to defend the follow-up easily, or prepare a counter-attack. If you opp knock before the punch, however, you are not missing out on time andl you are nearly guaranteeing the attack shall hit HP. This mini-"combo" of opp knocks + attacking move can also be modified slightly by tempering the knock with meditation in order to convert some of the combat advantage into more direct damage.

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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide (rewritten 4/22/14)

Postby Ninijutsu » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:56 am

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UPDATED 4/22/14: THOROUGHLY EDITED TO BE MORE COMPLETE, MORE CORRECT, AND MORE READABLE.

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RJT is right, it totally sucked before.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide (rewritten 4/22/14)

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:58 am

Wrong, attacking doesn't lower intensity unless it damages the opponent's HP. Also, since the enemy can valorous strike you to remove all your advantage, I don't think using moves to get advantage that use IP is a good idea, unless you have 3x the charisma of your opponent, in which case a pair of well placed stern orders give you 4 advantage with which you can hit your enemy pretty hard.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide (rewritten 4/22/14)

Postby Ninijutsu » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:08 am

NOOBY93 wrote:Wrong, attacking doesn't lower intensity unless it damages the opponent's HP. Also, since the enemy can valorous strike you to remove all your advantage, I don't think using moves to get advantage that use IP is a good idea, unless you have 3x the charisma of your opponent, in which case a pair of well placed stern orders give you 4 advantage with which you can hit your enemy pretty hard.

Just... no.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide (rewritten 4/22/14)

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:22 pm

Ninijutsu wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:Wrong, attacking doesn't lower intensity unless it damages the opponent's HP. Also, since the enemy can valorous strike you to remove all your advantage, I don't think using moves to get advantage that use IP is a good idea, unless you have 3x the charisma of your opponent, in which case a pair of well placed stern orders give you 4 advantage with which you can hit your enemy pretty hard.

Just... no.

Aren't you the guy I rekt in a spar like 6 times consecutively? :P
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After using a punch.
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Doesn't reduce when no dmg, reduces when dmg.
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Re: Comprehensive PvP Combat Guide (rewritten 4/22/14)

Postby Ninijutsu » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:39 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Ninijutsu wrote:
NOOBY93 wrote:Wrong, attacking doesn't lower intensity unless it damages the opponent's HP. Also, since the enemy can valorous strike you to remove all your advantage, I don't think using moves to get advantage that use IP is a good idea, unless you have 3x the charisma of your opponent, in which case a pair of well placed stern orders give you 4 advantage with which you can hit your enemy pretty hard.

Just... no.

Aren't you the guy I rekt in a spar like 6 times consecutively? :P

After I hadn't fought anything in a year, ya.

And I already conceded to your point. I forgot.
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