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How to grind?

Postby Taxaso » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:57 pm

What are the best ways to get LP fast? I want to do it in a rush. Please share your ways ^^
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Re: How to grind?

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:06 pm

*Dragonflies, Toy Chariots and raiding ant hills if you are just starting off. I am doing Bear teeth, Seer's Bones and Prisms now that I'm a bit more established.

*I am by no means an expert in grinding. I just play, preferring to build a nice, functional settlement while collecting stuff to use in it.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby SuperNoob » Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:31 pm

ant hills and cone cows are easier to grind early, once you start having a ton of bones around seer's bones and primitive dolls become good choices...and until you have awesome quality everything else keep raiding ant hills, and of course cone cows go up in quality with your trees so they're good for grinding til the day the world ends.

always remember to forage since the best curios are only found not made!
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Re: How to grind?

Postby Speed » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:35 am

What I did is rush civilized (I'm not a warrior anyways) and then go on a full blueberry diet with some aphids for the possible PER gain ans food variation bonus. In the meantime raise your exploration and start foraging the simple curios and anthills while always having a conecow and dandwlion in your study.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby cloakblade » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:53 am

WarpedWiseMan wrote:*Dragonflies, Toy Chariots and raiding ant hills if you are just starting off. I am doing Bear teeth, Seer's Bones and Prisms now that I'm a bit more established.

*I am by no means an expert in grinding. I just play, preferring to build a nice, functional settlement while collecting stuff to use in it.


Toy Chariots aren't good early on they provide only 42 LP/Hour and a 3 attention. Bear Teeth are terrible in general unless you are planning on being offline that long. Prisms aren't great until you get good kilns (which is totally possible).

SuperNoob wrote:...once you start having a ton of bones around seer's bones and primitive dolls become good choices...


Until you get boar or higher bones Seer's bones are actually pretty bad. And primitive dolls are horrible unless you have high quality wood and they require odd skills (carpentry).


Early on my suggestions are:
Cone Cows: A great curio early on. Not you don't really need to up your Survival at first I personally think it would be more beneficial to get Yeomanry or more Exploration then to increase Survival.
Dragonflies: These are awesome, you can easily farm them with an alt by right clicking on one and then alt-tabbing to your main client (keep an eye on the alt though as he's an easy target).
Ants: Namely Soldiers and Queens. These are the 2 best Curios you can get early on. You also get great FEP from the other ants and they are good to keep your hunger down.
Dandelion: Foragable easily found on Moors and Heaths (yellow and purple places).
Ladybugs: If you find one catch it they are decent early on.
Aurochs Hair: Though they aren't that great LP/Hour they are only 1 mental weight. Make sure to use a spare alt to get these as collecting them can easily result in death.
Barkboats: These are okay early on though the 5 mental weight is hard.

I'd also say get your Exploration up quickly. Things floor at 10q now when you collect them so there is no need to up survival*.

*You need to invest a minimum of 2000 to 5400 LP, +4 survival from Nettle Clothes, to get to 10 Survival that can easily be spent on either more exploration or towards Yeomanry.

Also don't forget to fish. Fishing is a great way to get LP early as each new fish you get is 3 discoveries (the fish, the prepared fish and the cooked fish) and fishing is only 100 LP.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby Sevenless » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:05 pm

Ladybugs are pretty trash honestly. I do use them since I've got 50int, but I still feel it's a waste of int for what they give if it's competing with any of your other options. Your other suggestions I all wholeheartedly agree with though.

At about 20ish exp, you can see thistles and brambles on mudflats. These are decent lp/hour and lp/weight. Their only disadvantage is size, but that early in the game you can't fill your study window anyway so it's perfect.

If you have access to a cave, 20-30 exp will open up stalagooms which are not amazing but well worth running. Boletes show up around here and are amazing curios.


Honestly though, I'd get exp until you can see nettles while eating blueberries, then make yourself a 4 piece nettle suit. Raise your survival to 10 with suit bonus and get a fishing rod. At this point fish until you have 30-40 int (stopping for curio collection when needed, eat the fish eyes as they're a terrible curio that gives PER).

Once you've got that much int, you can run everything simultaneously and start using itsy bitsy webs and other high end curios. They're great long term curios that you can't use early since you need lp now, not in a day and a half. Your LP gain goes intensely faster at this point and you can get the skills/stuff you need easily.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby cloakblade » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:24 pm

Sevenless wrote:Ladybugs are pretty trash honestly. I do use them since I've got 50int, but I still feel it's a waste of int for what they give if it's competing with any of your other options. Your other suggestions I all wholeheartedly agree with though.

At about 20ish exp, you can see thistles and brambles on mudflats. These are decent lp/hour and lp/weight. Their only disadvantage is size, but that early in the game you can't fill your study window anyway so it's perfect.

If you have access to a cave, 20-30 exp will open up stalagooms which are not amazing but well worth running. Boletes show up around here and are amazing curios.


Honestly though, I'd get exp until you can see nettles while eating blueberries, then make yourself a 4 piece nettle suit. Raise your survival to 10 with suit bonus and get a fishing rod. At this point fish until you have 30-40 int (stopping for curio collection when needed, eat the fish eyes as they're a terrible curio that gives PER).

Once you've got that much int, you can run everything simultaneously and start using itsy bitsy webs and other high end curios. They're great long term curios that you can't use early since you need lp now, not in a day and a half. Your LP gain goes intensely faster at this point and you can get the skills/stuff you need easily.


So when I was grinding during the first 12+ hours or so Lady Bugs were alright. They fill the slot and sometimes you'll be short on Curios, such as not getting an extra queen. The main thing is that they are q10 so its always 100 LP/Hour for 3 Weight. I mean if your on you'll often have a set up like Ant Soldier, Queen, Lady Bug, Cone Cow, Dragonfly, Dandelion is a good set up. This I can manage as an experienced player but as a newer player they may not find everything they need. Plus if you are rushing Yeomanry on your main you'll often end up with more Int before you have exploration high enough to get better curios so you'll end up with extra room and you can easily replace the Dandelion with Lady Bug at 12 Int and be better off.

And yeah once you get like 8 or so Exploration there are other curios that you can get, the ones you mention.

Edit: I don't know about rushing survival that fast. I personally, if I was playing one main character no alts, would rush about 3 exploration then Yeomanry. This allows you to get your nettles up and see pretty much all the blueberries. Once you have Yeomanry I still question not upping Exploration as you want WWWs at that point (assuming you want some basic farming), and you also want Lady's Mantle and the mudflat curios (low weight ones). It kind of depends on how much INT you have by the time you get Yeomanry but I feel like keeping a Queen in my inventory requires me to be almost constantly grinding ant hills. You also have to consider using a boat but I almost question getting Boat Building if you're by yourself.

I'm assuming the person asking is not as experienced due to the way he posed the question. If he said how do you grind LP once you are set up I may have answered differently but there are a lot of variables we don't know.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby insanechef » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:02 am

Sevenless wrote:Ladybugs are pretty trash honestly. I do use them since I've got 50int, but I still feel it's a waste of int for what they give if it's competing with any of your other options. Your other suggestions I all wholeheartedly agree with though.

At about 20ish exp, you can see thistles and brambles on mudflats. These are decent lp/hour and lp/weight. Their only disadvantage is size, but that early in the game you can't fill your study window anyway so it's perfect.

If you have access to a cave, 20-30 exp will open up stalagooms which are not amazing but well worth running. Boletes show up around here and are amazing curios.


Honestly though, I'd get exp until you can see nettles while eating blueberries, then make yourself a 4 piece nettle suit. Raise your survival to 10 with suit bonus and get a fishing rod. At this point fish until you have 30-40 int (stopping for curio collection when needed, eat the fish eyes as they're a terrible curio that gives PER).

Once you've got that much int, you can run everything simultaneously and start using itsy bitsy webs and other high end curios. They're great long term curios that you can't use early since you need lp now, not in a day and a half. Your LP gain goes intensely faster at this point and you can get the skills/stuff you need easily.


wont your other skills fall behind too much with 50 int?
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Re: How to grind?

Postby NOOBY93 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:12 am

insanechef wrote:
Sevenless wrote:Ladybugs are pretty trash honestly. I do use them since I've got 50int, but I still feel it's a waste of int for what they give if it's competing with any of your other options. Your other suggestions I all wholeheartedly agree with though.

At about 20ish exp, you can see thistles and brambles on mudflats. These are decent lp/hour and lp/weight. Their only disadvantage is size, but that early in the game you can't fill your study window anyway so it's perfect.

If you have access to a cave, 20-30 exp will open up stalagooms which are not amazing but well worth running. Boletes show up around here and are amazing curios.


Honestly though, I'd get exp until you can see nettles while eating blueberries, then make yourself a 4 piece nettle suit. Raise your survival to 10 with suit bonus and get a fishing rod. At this point fish until you have 30-40 int (stopping for curio collection when needed, eat the fish eyes as they're a terrible curio that gives PER).

Once you've got that much int, you can run everything simultaneously and start using itsy bitsy webs and other high end curios. They're great long term curios that you can't use early since you need lp now, not in a day and a half. Your LP gain goes intensely faster at this point and you can get the skills/stuff you need easily.


wont your other skills fall behind too much with 50 int?

Easy.
Strength:
Meat.
Perception:
Carrots.
Constitution:
Pea pies, pumpkin pies, or bark bread.
Agility:
Honeybuns, DDDs.
All of these can be gotten with 10 in every attribute (and/or 50 in intelligence)
Edit: Scratch the DDDs, needs a grinder for that.
Agility: Honeybuns.
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Re: How to grind?

Postby Flowen » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:06 am

insanechef wrote:wont your other skills fall behind too much with 50 int?


I have my Intel at 92 right now (base 63) and I'm still not finding it too hard level up because of it. You just have to make sure that with every attribute level you are eating many different kinds of food. Like if you want to grind Intel up just make sure you're eating a blueberry, blueberry pie, and cooked fox meat with every level up. Throw in a few random foods like beets, carrots, other animal meats or really just anything, and chances are you'll still get the level up you were putting the most FEPs into. The randomization of the FEP system helps keep stats fairly balanced I find, as most of my other stats are sitting around 35-50 (except for psyche, char, and dex which are around 15 :lol:)

This being said, if you want to get your FEPs up fast, your village had better have a damn good farmer. I just happen to be lucky enough to have an insane brother that has around 20 5x10 farming plots.
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