How do I secure a cave entrance?

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How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby Veldrys » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:08 am

I just started playing Haven & Hearth a little while ago and found a cave entrance that was still unclaimed.

The cave seems to be pretty big. Is it possible for another player to walk through the cave, exit through my entrance and enter my claim?

Is putting a hearthfire in front of the entrance protection enough?

Or would it be safer to let the cave be and build my claim further away?

I'm also in the process of building a palisade around my claim. Can I use the cliff as a wall or is that unsafe?

Thank you in advance for your answes. :)
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:15 am

Using cliff as a wall is safe this world, the hitbox has been fixed.
However, you need to make an additional palisade around the cave entrance so people from the cave can't enter and take your stuffs.
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby painhertz » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:16 am

yes, no, yes, no
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby Arcanist » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:18 am

Using a cliff as a wall is a bad idea in every aspect.

People can destroy your Hearth fire, or use the 4th speed to escape from it after leaving the cave.

Make your claim and wall 20-30 tiles from the cliff
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:00 pm

Arcanist wrote:Using a cliff as a wall is a bad idea in every aspect.

People can destroy your Hearth fire, or use the 4th speed to escape from it after leaving the cave.

Make your claim and wall 20-30 tiles from the cliff


Agree with the "cliff wall". The cliff jumps have been fixed before only to pop back up again or someone finds another method to glitch over them.

As far as the HF is concerned, yes, this works to get off of them, but only if you can move at sprint speed (4th speed setting). HFs on forest tiles and swamp don't allow this.

I had good luck in w5 walling in the cliff my cave was in (it was a short cliff, about 40 tiles long total) and made it a point to wall off the other side, too, which was a massive project due to a lake at the 50 tile mark from the entrance inside the cave. Anywhere you're digging, make sure to drop claims and walls to protect any quality ore nodes you find. You can also put up a pali or BW corner post at other entrances to the cave to keep people out. (Put up a small claim with an alt to keep them from decaying.)
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby Amanda44 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:14 pm

MagicManICT wrote:You can also put up a pali or BW corner post at other entrances to the cave to keep people out. (Put up a small claim with an alt to keep them from decaying.)


Done the latter part and pallied the claims, but didn't think about the cp at the entrances - brilliant, thanks! :D
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby SuperNoob » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:18 pm

if you want to use HF to keep people from coming in through your cave you need alts.

use a pattern like this:

LLCLL
HEEEH
HHHHH

where:
L=Ledge
C=Cave
H=HF
E=Empty space

this way when person comes out they're trapped between HFs and the ledge(unless they have vandalism and atleast 25 strength and a stone axe).
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby Sevenless » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:30 pm

Or you can place a single hearth fire in front of the cave?

You only need to make a HF wall when you have multiple people needing to enter/exit.
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby NOOBY93 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:35 pm

Sevenless wrote:Or you can place a single hearth fire in front of the cave?

You only need to make a HF wall when you have multiple people needing to enter/exit.

But someone will exit the cave and enter your base... :roll:
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Re: How do I secure a cave entrance?

Postby Sevenless » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:39 pm

NOOBY93 wrote:
Sevenless wrote:Or you can place a single hearth fire in front of the cave?

You only need to make a HF wall when you have multiple people needing to enter/exit.

But someone will exit the cave and enter your base... :roll:


He's asking how to block off entrance to the cave. If he has an unguarded back entrance to his base through a cave it doesn't matter if he has HF's there or not honestly.
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