troll cave ins

[Tiberium]

can someone explain in detail how trolls call down cave is and when? because to my understanding its not near as simple to kill trolls this world. is there any easy way to kill them still?

[NOOBY93]

Reason they do it: When they reach you, sometimes they think they got stuck on something trying to get to you so they kill you with cavein.
Thing to do: Run away from them, kill with op knocks and b12. OR kill with r-bow. Easier first way.

[beater1771]

so.... anyone?

I'm interested in the info also.

[Xcom]

You cant win against a troll in a fair fight. You have to abuse the AIs stupidity by attacking it when its chasing someone else or use a ranged weapon and avoid getting attacked by exiting the area.

The reason the troll causes cavins was to combat automated mining bots digging endlessly specifically to find trolls for there rare skulls. The cavins was a hotfix for those instances where you could avoid getting killed by the troll by standing behind stones or void tiles where the troll couldn't reach you. It was a very common tactic to use stones dug from cellars as safe walls. Bots abused that mechanic and as loftar had a hard time making the stones destructible he instead added a cavin feature on the troll.

The issue is that the new feature is buggy and is harder to fix then expected. Loftar have tried to fix the bug but have given up on it as its to much hassle trying to fix then recode it. As he is working on haven 2.0 he cant be bothered fixing it as of right now. Suggestions have been reported for a hotfix but it seams trolls will stay in there buggy state.

The mechanic was meant to be for trapped trolls to attack with cavins when the troll found it impossible to reach its target. But there is a bug where the troll things he cant reach its target as the troll is standing right up against his target. The only way to avoid getting a cavin from a troll while being aggroed to it is to stay at range and make 100% sure it can reach you. If he can run towards you he wont cavin, if you stand still or let the troll get to close it will do its cavin move.

As trolls only have a maximum speed of 3 out of 4 they are easy to kite by drinking water and running at max speed. If the troll can reach the target, weather his target is moving or not, it will continuously chase it without doing the cavin move and seldom switches targets so a second person can attack it freely until it goes down. Because of this technically it makes trolls less of a challenge to kill then dears and bears if water tactics aren't used against said animals. Both bears and deers run at max speed making the same kiting tactics impossible against them.

[MagicManICT]

So for practice, one could use boars. (I think it's pretty obvious, but then, we are talking about the Haven forums here.)

[beater1771]

Ok sry one last question.
Does the cavin tactic have a max range? does the cavin move automatically target the shooter no matter what distance.

Edit: Would this work..
2 people spawn alts to keep it on screen but not agro'd while they each have archers go up and down ladder shooting it with bows?

[ramones]

aggro him with 1 alt, shoot with your marksman as long as the alt is alive, when alt dies, go up with marksman and loose aggro, have another alt prepared before to go to troll again, repeat until dead.