Problem with destroying a barter stand with dead owner

[IC4]

One of my character has been using barter stand to trade within a town and the character was sniped by damned AD Russian raiders one day. I tried to use it with another character which inherited the dead character, and realized that the barter stand ownership cannot be inherited.

Now, I'm trying to destroy it so I can build a new one in that place, but whenever I try to destroy it, system message says "That stand is in use" and won't allow me to destroy it (even if I turn the criminal activity on). The stand is in the villiage claim area but not on my personal claim area, and all items on the stand had been sold out (but the owner character died before collecting the paid items). How am I supposed to destroy this thing?

Thanks

[mvgulik]

Get Vandalism.

[borka]

Have you tried with refilling on new char ?

[mvgulik]

Have you tried with refilling on new char ?

Refilling

- Stands can only be refilled by stand owner.
- Stands owned by dead hearthlings can't be de-owned. (Stand ownership is not inherited)
- Stuff for sale can be removed with Theft (other than of course just buying it). +(Payment stuff is none accessible, and should be considered lost.)
- Getting rid of the stand can be done with Vandalism. (Not completely sure if claimed ground makes a difference here. But I personally don't think so.)

I not aware of any other option's here. Don't think there are any.
A owned Stand is a 'on its own' claimed object.

[MagicManICT]

I think what borka refers to is that an empty stand has no "ownership." The character that places items into the stand claims ownership of it. If I recall the information from the forums, this is the most correct, otherwise ownership is based on claim.

[mvgulik]

I think what borka refers to is that an empty stand has no "ownership."

I really don't know. Just know that his question to the OP (assumed MIA) is still not making any sense to me.
But I'm sure a lot run into the same problem with reply's from me.

+See: RoB Wiki Stand pages.

[borka]

An empty vending stand can change owner by refilling (even when change sign doesn't do anything) after old owner died (verified myself)

[mvgulik]

You just severely tickled my interest.

How did you test this ?

*thinks*
Did you:
- Kill of a character that,
-- had ownership of a completely empty stand (both selling and payment stocks). <-- this probably being the crucial part here.
- and than refilled that stand with a other character.
?

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PS: Not to sure about your "change sign doesn't do anything" part.
Its only the current owner can use that to see if he is not owning the stand anymore.
(And of course new owners to see/test that they now have ownership over a stand.)

[borka]

simply - char made a vending stand to let an Alt discover metals for Xroad - Alt discovered - owner emptied the vending stand fully

owner met a Troll when mining - escaped but was stupid enough to return and attack the Troll and died very fast

inherited char went to vending stand to refill to enable another Alt to discover something - it worked

now you even know why a certain char in your Kinlist is unresponsible

[mvgulik]

owner emptied the vending stand fully

Mmm. Its this part that puts its on thin ice for me.
Unless you can confirm that you tested that that character, that emptied the stand, was still owning the stand. There is a good change the Stand was left owner-less while you thoughT it was not.

Sorry, at work.

now you even know why a certain char in your Kinlist is unresponsible

Erm, I can't say I notist . To busy with my little Pigs farm at the other end of town.