How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

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How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Heater » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:11 am

I paved a stone tile on the edge of a cliff, but I am unable to place a Palisade on it. Can people walk past this hole in my security, or should I disregard this?
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby VileThings » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:18 am

Can you walk past it?
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Cookie » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:25 am

Shift click to place the pallisade corner post. Put one block in it and then tried your damndest to get through between the block and the pallisade. If you can get by take the block back and try again.

Be aware that sometimes you may have to build a spare freestanding pallisade post just to seal a pallisade built against a cliff. This is expensive. Also, don't frustrate yourself by building the wall further down the cliff to see if you can join it there. If you can't join it by moving just a tile or so, then you aren't going to be able to join it by building twenty more wall sections and trying to join the cliff after it bends.

Apparently cliffs in mountains are generated nicely into square with the grid and so are easy to build walls against but cliffs in any other terrain are not.

The last time I tried to build a pallisade with a cliff was in the very first map and at that time the shift click placement made it work out perfectly. I don't know if things have changed. I've heard about/seen a lot of useless walls that you can stroll through.
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Heater » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:22 am

I managed to do it, but I'm afraid that if I build the palisade, I will not be able to extend it in the direction that I want without building a new palisade. Would it ever do this? How do I make sure that the post is not freestanding?
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Heater » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:35 pm

In the picture, do you think that I have done it right (the lower right signpost)?
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby ricky » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:42 pm

that makes absolutly no sence.. post a bigger picture please?
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Granger » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:50 pm

Heater wrote:In the picture, do you think that I have done it right (the lower right signpost)?


You'll be able to extend them as long as you placed them on the grid (= didn't held shift while placing them).
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Heater » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:58 pm

I decided to risk it and build the palisade. At first, I thought that I was ruined because my wall would not build any further, but I built some stone around it and I was finally able to extend it. Now my only issue is to figure out how to build a gate without making two starting cornerposts... I was thinking maybe building around the designated gate spot and then destroying the palisades, leaving the cornerposts behind, but I don't think I could destroy a palisade wall. Given that I had to scrounge up for a week to get the necessary materials for the wall, I would rather not make two cornerposts, but if I'm forced to do so...
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Cookie » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:06 pm

Honestly, it looks good but you can't tell until you place that last corner post and see if is perfect.

Since the ridge is the same ridge, it should work. If you used shift click to place the first corner post then the final corner post should also be shift clicked the same the fraction off the grid to match the cliff/ridge/ledge so it should work. But they are a real bitch to do with ledges because if you want a gate you have to be certain the second gate post is placed correctly... Otherwise your two wall sections don't match where they meet.

The way to do your gate is with a roundpole fence. Do the first wall section from the ledge to the corner post that is going to be your gate post. Then build two squares of roundpole fence in the gap. Then put the new corner post up on the far side of the roundpole fence. If the two cornerposts of the pallisade line up perfectly with the two squares of the roundpole fence you are good to go and can start building the second corner post. Once you have done that you destroy the two square of round pole fence and put a gate between them. As long as you make absolutely certain that you can't get between your first corner post and the ledge and that the roundpole fence seals the two gate corner posts perfectly it should work. But I'm not saying it's simple!

As a last resort you can build a mock-up with a roundpole fence the whole length of your planned pallisade.

I hope this is clear. And I hope you have the very best of luck!I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Re: How do I build a palisade on a ledge?

Postby Heater » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:41 pm

I've built up to the point where I will make a gate, and I traded for some goods to make a new palisade. Do my cornerposts have to line up exactly, or is close enough good enough? Also, do I have to make my cornerpost hug the post as close as it can? For some reason, I can overlap the building palisade picture on top of my cornerposts, but not for the gate cornerpost.

I attached a picture; for the left picture, the palisades line up perfectly and do not appear any different from a normal palisade. But in the right picture, where I plan to build my gate, I am unable to do so; it has a little piece at the left that comes out of the palisade. This occurs no matter how many times I try; while I can make it overlap the palisade corner perfectly on the other corners, I can't on that one. Does this mean that I will not be able to build a gate to that post?

Edit: Using the pixels on a screen and a picture of a palisade gate, I managed to figure out exactly where to put one... but the gate skipped over some pixels even with shift+click, so I couldn't put it in the exact same position as in the picture. Is there a way to place objects pixel-by-pixel?

It's amazing how much trouble not being able to build on a ledge can cause. :(
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